Rafah bombings (Edited by Mumsnet)

Israel has bombed rafah today with hundreds of bombs. I’ve seen there are several videos on social media and some of them speak about beheaded children (I’ve not watched any but read it on a Spanish journalist account)

The Iran/Iraq war was caused by Saddam of Iraq invading Iran…When that failed, Saddam then turned to invading Kuwait.

I am failing to see how this proves your catastrophic fear that Iran wants to take over the ME?

I think that the Israeli authorities will be satisfied when they reach their goal - a goal that can only be something that we aren’t being told - like push the Gazan’s out of Gaza

I think this has always been the goal, pushing the 'people without a land' out of their land completely. Israel's "defence" post 7/10 is clear to the world now, it's just an upscaled version of the past 75 years of torture, land grabbing, imprisonment, and murder of women, children and of course men. Even the US can see that it's gone too far now. No one in their right mind can call this a motive of defence.

If Israel let Hamas stay in power they will just re-group and continue to attack Israel using their citizens as 'human shields'

And if the international cowards world let Israel continue to mass murder Palestinians, using Hamas as an excuse, there will be a total wipe out of Palestinian people altogether. Judging by the government rhetoric of late it is clear that is the intention.

What?

You think Hamas are interested in a Palestinian State ? Really?

We'll have to agree to disagree on that.

That is a rather short-sighted opinion.

If Israel let Hamas stay in power they will just re-group and continue to attack Israel using their citizens as 'human shields'.

Hamas is a proxy of Iran which is committed to the annihilation of the State of Israel.
Do you seriously think Hamas have any interest in a Palestinian State? They are following the orders of their puppet masters Iran to create an Islamic Caliphate across the ME, starting by removing Israel.

Who mentioned removing Israel from the map? Not me. I just want them to stop occupying and brutalising Palestine, and to stop preventing the formation of Palestinian state.

Can't you see the bigger picture?

This is all part of Iran's plan to destabilize and take over the Middle East. Hamas is a small part of this along with Hezbollah, Muslim Brotherhood, al-Qaeda and other Iranian proxy forces.

How many deaths do you think that would cause?

The Iran/Iraq War had 500,000 casualties, 100,000 of them civilians.

That conflict has been compared to World War I in terms of the tactics used by both sides, including large-scale trench warfare with barbed wire stretched across fortified defensive lines, manned machine-gun posts, bayonet charges, Iranian human wave attacks, Iraq's extensive use of chemical weapons, and deliberate attacks on civilian targets.
The discourses on martyrdom formulated in the Iranian Shia Islamic context led to the widespread usage of human wave attacks and thus had a lasting impact on the dynamics of the conflict.

You are naive to think If Israel was removed from the map there would be peace.

Have a look at the history of The Lebanon if you want to see what could happen.

No, if waiting and seeing involves murdering thousands of women and children. Which it does.

Fine.

Let's wait and see shall we ?

Ok but I for one would take anything they report with a grain of salt

According to Reuters, South Africa said they would be approaching the UN security council with Friday’s ICJ order.

From IDF reports.

100% Spite and defiance. It will be used as evidence in the pending case, but it's like the Israeli government doesn't care. The fact that the American judge voted in favour of all the orders should have made them pause, but there is distinct lack of self awareness.

What does defeating Hamas look like? How do you know they are so close to achieving it?

You haven't heard of "Noddy" ?

You don't know what you missed !

Whatever

To quote your illustrious self - "Ha Ha Ha ! "

You think that's a clever riposte??

It's spite to my mind - after the 26th Jan ICJ hearing instead of increasing humanitarian aid it was reduced by 2/3 for the whole of February

I don't think so - if I need a collection of fairy stories I'll read some old Noddy books.

Yes, revenge. As if the world can't see it for what it is. I actually feel sick

Minutes after the decision of the International Court of Justice, warplanes launched a series of air strikes on the Shaboura camp in the centre of the city of Rafah.
A local activist at nearby Kuwait Hospital told the BBC that the sounds of bombing were terrifying and clouds of black smoke hung over buildings in the Shaboura camp.
They said the rescue teams in the hospital were unable to reach the site of the raids due to the intensity of the strikes.

RTFT

In defiance of the Court order the IDF is currently bombing Rafah.
https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1794006023377650005
I feel sorry for the residents tonight, there will be a lot of vengeance enacted tonight.

Evidence please.