Rafah bombings (Edited by Mumsnet)

No, don't be ridiculous. The ultimate reason for it is that Hamas are in Rafah using civilians there as human shields. Hamas then decided to speed things up a bit by firing rockets from Rafah in order to ensure Israel would be guaranteed not to be persuaded by other governments to leave Rafah alone. Hamas don't want Rafah left alone as it suits them perfectly to have as many innocent civilian Palestinians killed as possible as they're pawns in their sick and twisted murderous games.

Hope that clarifies the matter.

Does anyone know what facilities are available in this humanitarian area and how aid will be delivered?

How are tired, hungry, traumatised and potentially injured people meant to travel there?

They had planned this for weeks though, months maybe? So let's not pretend those rockets are the reason for this. That would be ridiculous.

And none of that changes the fact that innocent people are being murdered in Rafah today.

If you have no compassion for them, or for posters whose loved ones are there, perhaps you could at least have the decency to allow there to be a space free from deflection, dismissal and Islamophobia for people who do care.

This.

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This is murder. Murder of innocent civilians.

And I have zero time for anyone coming here to deflect and dismiss from what is happening.

When Iran fired missiles at Israel, there was a thread on this board, filled with support and compassion for people in Israel. People put aside their political differences to offer support to other humans in distress.

It says a lot about people that they cannot treat others how they would like to be treated and indeed have been treated.

The apologists of Oct 7th AND the apologists of the deaths of 34000 Palestinians through bombings/ famine/diseases/ virtually no medical care make me sick.
What Hamas did on 07/10 make me sick.
What the Israeli government is doing in full view of the world makes me sick.
The targeted killing of the press in Gaza makes me sick.
The targeted killing of aid workers in Gaza makes me sick.
Netanyahu refusing the release of the hostages on 09/10 makes me sick.
The complicity of the world in what the Israeli government is doing makes me sick.
So many posters forgetting that we are all humans and therefore all linked by this communality makes me sick.
I could go on.

On October 6th there was an ongoing Ceasefire.

And then look what happened.

Absolutely.

And beyond the parachuting in, all the rest of the evil slaughters, burnings, rapes.

But I can see now (especially online) there are these Hamas-inspired/Muslim extremist/Iran backed conspiracy theories saying the above didn't happen. Even though we ALL saw it happen in real time. There are Witnesses, there is Footage in Go Pro Cameras

And yet certain protesters won't even mentionThe Hostages- totally brainwashed and I almost feel bad for them for that.

The apologists of Oct 7th make me literally sick.

Israel started this by keeping them under occupation for years and years. They were killing Palestinians for a long time before Oct 7th, even before Hamas came into power.

Israel have thousands of Palestinian hostages that have never had a trial. The world is not blind you know.

What could've been swept under the carpet 15 years ago can no longer be hidden anymore. This is why the US wants to ban TikTok and why Israel have shut down Al Jazeera.

Trying to derail any thread that is sympathetic to the plight of the Palestinians just shows how low you will stoop to try and deny any blame on Israels parts.

If you don't care about the Palestinians, why don't you care about the hostages you think should be returned? Where exactly do you think they are if not in Rafah?!

And it is documented in Israeli press that Hamas offered to hand the hostages back in October and Netenyahu said no. So stop the "Hamas should hand over the hostages"! They would have, had Bibi wanted them back! There have literally been protests in Israel about this too!

Your Islamophobia/xenophobia is shining through.

Yep @Humdingerydoo Hamas have brought this on their own people …they are sacrificing their own…. life seems to not matter to them. They started this by parachuting in

I think it's important to not just forget that rockets were fired from Rafah yesterday to one of the border crossings between Gaza and Israel, causing death and destruction.

On a personal level I wish Israel wouldn't have retaliated like this, but let's not pretend Israel is just randomly attacking Rafah. Hamas knew exactly what they were doing when they fired those rockets from Rafah, and knew exactly what retaliation to expect. As always, they are sacrificing their own people and as always, Israel are solely to be blamed by certain posters on here.

I agree it needs to end …Israel needs to stop it is dreadful.

unfortunately Hamas doing way they did gave Israel leader the excuse he wanted to do what he doing…no one seems to be able to stop it! It is a horrific situation…

Of course they've banned Al Jazeera, Netanyahu wouldn't want the Israelis watching as the IDF bomb and kill the hostages but from his point of view at least when they're all dead there will be no reason for him not to finish the job of levelling and emptying Gaza.

No one believes this is about hostages but I suppose some people need to deceive themselves in order to justify the murder, maiming and starvation of thousands of innocent people and the complete destruction of infrastructure and homes. I agree it's depraved and I'm sickened by it too.

Its so sad, I'm thinking of all the babies that are left to die when their parents get killed. I have a newborn and the crazy anxiety thoughts I have made me realise that those things are probably happening in Gaza. I feel so blessed to be here and not there. You can't choose where or who you are born to.

Mumsnet is vile at times. Those innocent souls

Maybe Israel could finish it then? When is enough going to be enough? When the Palestinian population no longer exists? What is Israel actually achieving from this?

So Israel is completely blameless for killing nearly 40 000 people, bombing hospitals, universities, refugee camps and schools?

I would laugh at the cognitive dissonance if it wasn't such a disgusting take.

Hamas parachuting into Israel started this…Hamas are to blame…
Other countries don’t want full scale war hence no on is stepping in…
It is bad on both sides no winners in this.

I'm sick of Hamas' terrorist infrastructure continuing to be a threat to its own citizens and the people of Israel. The innocent loss of life is devastating but so is Hamas' continued actions of putting its innocents in jeopardy. What kind of leadership does that?

Well it explains the timing for the shameful decision to ban Al Jazeera.

I feel sick. And I find it hard to be around mumsnet posters who are still cheerleading this. I'm so sick of seeing children killed or dying. It's fucking beyond depraved.

It is very sad to say but, for some, compassion only works one way.