Rafah bombings (Edited by Mumsnet)

And go where? Tell me where should they go?

Netanyahu has already said that he'll attack Rafah after the hostages are released. You'll need some new excuses for this genocide I'm afraid.

I’m 100% sure that if Gaza and Israel weren’t so close together they’d have nuked them on October 8th.

Although maybe that would have been too kind.

It seems like Netanyahu purposefully sabotages the deals whenever it's close to being finalised. Like insisting on attacking Rafah even if a deal goes through and the hostages are released.
I don't think he wants the war to end, once it does there will be nothing left for him to hold on to, to stay in power.

@quantumbutterfly you said I know better then courts. I gave you an example of when a court has been incorrect. This has nothing to do with jurisdiction- just court decisions are made by humans. Humans are not infallible

Except Nethanyu said multiple times that Israel was going to attack Rafah, “deal or no deal”, and “even if a ceasefire and hostage deal”

So lovely as your idea is for ending the war, Israel has already rejected it.

You seem to be confusing jurisdictions.

A woman was actually recently sent to jail in the UK for this.

This is why there is so much frustration and people are unable to engage in conversation about it. Because there is a huge blind spot towards Hamas. Hamas apparently do not have to take accountability and that’s why there will aways be discord in support.

Stop talking serious nonsense. Murdering familes as they slept inc children, rape, kidnap and worse by HAMAS.

I vividly recall the poor lady naked in the back of a Hamas operatives truck as they went through their town where children joined in by hitting the dead woman and spitting on here - SICK

What do you want them to do??

How would the people that live in England feel if British nationals were taken hostage by a terror group, the same terror group that had fired tens of thousands of rockets at us without a care in the world for us and those living around them

As soon as this Hamas, its leaders around the world are taken out the better it will be all of us INCLUDING THE PEOPLE OF GAZA AND THAT IS A FUNDAMENTAL FACT

Sure. No matter what Israel does or how many war crimes, it's someone else's fault. Got it.

I think the car driver in this scenario probably had ample time to brake and decided to accelerate straight at the pedestrian instead.

No they were not!!!! Weeks ago they were told to move out of that area and that is a fact

Fact, rockets were fired from that area yesterday killing IDF soldiers and seriously injuring civllinas , The crossing was targeted by Hams in an effort to stop the humanitarian aid IMO why else would they do that

This could all stop right now if all hostages were released and the main leaders in Gaza were given up

I sometimes think that if there's intelligent life out there in the universe they must be looking down on us and thinking 'if that's what they do to each other?' It's not just Gaza though. The only way for this current carnage to stop is for a ceasefire and negotiation. Israel can't eradicate Hamas, Hamas can't eradicate Israel.

It's Israel.

@quantumbutterfly maybe.

People get exonerated all the time. The courts called Nelson Mandela a terrorist. Do you agree they were wrong ?

@quantumbutterfly so there are no mums in Palestine??

To be honest, if Netanyahu and the Israeli state have their way there won't be any mums in Palestine I guess.

Well you know better than the courts I suppose.

Well originally it was a resource to help mums, the clue's in the name.

@quantumbutterfly still the drivers fault.
The old lady shouting is an idiot but ultimately the driver should have seen and swerved

Totally agree with this.
This is why I've stopped posting on this topic on Mn.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/auriol-grey-cyclist-pedestrial-appeal-sentence-b2342082.html

If she had intended the result you could argue the case for murder I suppose.

@MNHQ stop censoring legitimate speech.

All over mn we complain about labour, conservatives, snp, democrats, republicans etc we complain about the UK, UAE, USA etc why is Isreal the only country, political party that we can't complain about?

Absolutely ridiculous. You are complicit because you allow those that seek to rewrite history to do so by censoring comments on Isreal allowing people so claim disagreeing with Isreal is the same as hating Jewish people. If discourse isn't allowed what is the point in this site?

@Hugosmaid

The driver!

This is why we have situational awareness as part of the driver theory test. You need to be aware of all on the road and course correct not to cause harm

I don’t think this analogy works because in this scenario the car driver is innocent- the pusher is the killer. The analogy doesn’t work

The pusher
The car driver
or both?
Who is who in this scenario because it makes zero sense