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Conflict in the Middle East

Rafah bombings (Edited by Mumsnet)

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TwilightSkies · 06/05/2024 09:10

Where the hell are all the Palestinians meant to go now?
They were TOLD to go to Rafah, that Rafah was a safe place.
It’s just open extermination at this point.

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/05/2024 15:09

Many thanks to MNHQ re my complaint re the title of the thread being misleading

RafaistheKingofClay · 06/05/2024 15:07

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/05/2024 14:37

What do you want them to do??

How would the people that live in England feel if British nationals were taken hostage by a terror group, the same terror group that had fired tens of thousands of rockets at us without a care in the world for us and those living around them

As soon as this Hamas, its leaders around the world are taken out the better it will be all of us INCLUDING THE PEOPLE OF GAZA AND THAT IS A FUNDAMENTAL FACT

Can you name any hostage they we’ve got back as a result bombing the fuck out of somewhere and murdering children?

Even our current government aren’t that insane. Israel were never going to get their hostages back following this course of action. And pretty much every government in the world knows it, including the Israeli government.

Hugosmaid · 06/05/2024 15:04

SummerFeverVenice · 06/05/2024 14:55

Yes why? Why is that?

There is history of civil wars when Palestinian refugees entered countries in the surrounding area. This is well documented and factual before any one gets offended. I’m pretty sure that’s why there has been the reluctance to take them in.

MissyB1 · 06/05/2024 15:02

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/05/2024 14:50

STOP being ridiculous you are showing yourself up by saying "go where!!!

You know they can go to the SAFE ZONES and that is a fact

Why is Egypt that attacked Israel years ago are NOT allowing these people into their safe country, WHY???

Why is Iran/UAE/Lebonnon ETC not telling, bringing out people to their vast countries - WHY??????

YES, you KNOW WHY!!!

WHAT BLOODY SAFE ZONES????

We don’t believe in safe zones because they are a lie!! Every time the IDF call somewhere a “safe zone” they then promptly bomb it! You must have noticed? Do keep up.

ConnieCounter · 06/05/2024 15:01

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/05/2024 15:00

I will try one more time but I know you wont answer it as the answer re "Egypt" and the other places does not tie in with your stance

STOP being ridiculous you are showing yourself up by saying "go where!!!

You know they can go to the SAFE ZONES and that is a fact

Why is Egypt that attacked Israel years ago are NOT allowing these people into their safe country, WHY???

Why is Iran/UAE/Lebonnon ETC not telling, bringing out people to their vast countries - WHY??????

YES, you KNOW WHY!!!

You're making no sense. At all.

Auvergne63 · 06/05/2024 15:00

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/05/2024 14:50

STOP being ridiculous you are showing yourself up by saying "go where!!!

You know they can go to the SAFE ZONES and that is a fact

Why is Egypt that attacked Israel years ago are NOT allowing these people into their safe country, WHY???

Why is Iran/UAE/Lebonnon ETC not telling, bringing out people to their vast countries - WHY??????

YES, you KNOW WHY!!!

Wow. Shouting at people really shows you are losing the argument. What's next? Personal insults?

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/05/2024 15:00

ConnieCounter · 06/05/2024 14:52

Safe zones that Israel bombs the shit out of? Great option thanks for that.

Why are you blaming everyone except the country currently bombing civilians?

The disrespect on this thread is hideous.

I will try one more time but I know you wont answer it as the answer re "Egypt" and the other places does not tie in with your stance

STOP being ridiculous you are showing yourself up by saying "go where!!!

You know they can go to the SAFE ZONES and that is a fact

Why is Egypt that attacked Israel years ago are NOT allowing these people into their safe country, WHY???

Why is Iran/UAE/Lebonnon ETC not telling, bringing out people to their vast countries - WHY??????

YES, you KNOW WHY!!!

SummerFeverVenice · 06/05/2024 14:55

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/05/2024 14:50

STOP being ridiculous you are showing yourself up by saying "go where!!!

You know they can go to the SAFE ZONES and that is a fact

Why is Egypt that attacked Israel years ago are NOT allowing these people into their safe country, WHY???

Why is Iran/UAE/Lebonnon ETC not telling, bringing out people to their vast countries - WHY??????

YES, you KNOW WHY!!!

Yes why? Why is that?

TrudyProud · 06/05/2024 14:55

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Auvergne63 · 06/05/2024 14:55

I was listening to an Israeli ex prime minister (sorry I can't remember his name) on the radio who stated that going into Rafah would be dangerous as it would endanger the hostages. He never mentioned the civilians who would be killed. They simply don't matter.
I feel that there are many posters here who feel the same about Palestinians.

SummerFeverVenice · 06/05/2024 14:54

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/05/2024 14:37

What do you want them to do??

How would the people that live in England feel if British nationals were taken hostage by a terror group, the same terror group that had fired tens of thousands of rockets at us without a care in the world for us and those living around them

As soon as this Hamas, its leaders around the world are taken out the better it will be all of us INCLUDING THE PEOPLE OF GAZA AND THAT IS A FUNDAMENTAL FACT

Oh, I don’t know maybe read the Genocide Convention we signed up to, and have a peruse of the old rules of war written by us and the UN and, ya know, maybe not break every single rule while going whole hog for Genocide?

It is a lie that what Israel has done and is doing is the only option. It isn’t. It is the worst option of all.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/05/2024 14:54

stomachamelon · 06/05/2024 14:48

@DistinguishedSocialCommentator well said.

Many thanks

It has to be said

I am no fan of the Israeli PM he is as bad as the other extremists in the world - but the shit posted by some here that fail to recognise how the ordinary Israeli people and the ordinary Gazaina people have suffered under the hands of HAMAS and their feeders.

Time to speak up for the eradication of Hamas and those that leader this murderous lot for the sake of the ordinary people in Gaza and Israel - once this war is over, 200% sure the current leader of Israel will be kicked out

ConnieCounter · 06/05/2024 14:53

Their brainwashing efforts are top notch. I'll give them that.

ConnieCounter · 06/05/2024 14:52

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/05/2024 14:50

STOP being ridiculous you are showing yourself up by saying "go where!!!

You know they can go to the SAFE ZONES and that is a fact

Why is Egypt that attacked Israel years ago are NOT allowing these people into their safe country, WHY???

Why is Iran/UAE/Lebonnon ETC not telling, bringing out people to their vast countries - WHY??????

YES, you KNOW WHY!!!

Safe zones that Israel bombs the shit out of? Great option thanks for that.

Why are you blaming everyone except the country currently bombing civilians?

The disrespect on this thread is hideous.

TextureSeeker · 06/05/2024 14:52

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/05/2024 14:50

STOP being ridiculous you are showing yourself up by saying "go where!!!

You know they can go to the SAFE ZONES and that is a fact

Why is Egypt that attacked Israel years ago are NOT allowing these people into their safe country, WHY???

Why is Iran/UAE/Lebonnon ETC not telling, bringing out people to their vast countries - WHY??????

YES, you KNOW WHY!!!

I'd like to know why you think that is?

SummerFeverVenice · 06/05/2024 14:51

Scirocco · 06/05/2024 11:54

This is murder. Murder of innocent civilians.

And I have zero time for anyone coming here to deflect and dismiss from what is happening.

When Iran fired missiles at Israel, there was a thread on this board, filled with support and compassion for people in Israel. People put aside their political differences to offer support to other humans in distress.

It says a lot about people that they cannot treat others how they would like to be treated and indeed have been treated.

Yes, it is odd a Bedouin girl critically injured by an Iranian missile and post after post of sympathy. Thousands of Bedouin girls have been killed by Israeli missiles, some on the same day as the girl injured above, and post after post defending the Israeli missiles and going too bad, so sad, not the fault of the army shooting the missiles.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/05/2024 14:50

ConnieCounter · 06/05/2024 14:45

And go where? Tell me where should they go?

Netanyahu has already said that he'll attack Rafah after the hostages are released. You'll need some new excuses for this genocide I'm afraid.

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STOP being ridiculous you are showing yourself up by saying "go where!!!

You know they can go to the SAFE ZONES and that is a fact

Why is Egypt that attacked Israel years ago are NOT allowing these people into their safe country, WHY???

Why is Iran/UAE/Lebonnon ETC not telling, bringing out people to their vast countries - WHY??????

YES, you KNOW WHY!!!

quantumbutterfly · 06/05/2024 14:49

You said the UK court's decision was wrong and justified it by citing a South African judgement.

In the case I linked there is no doubt of the circumstances, and if you wish to see why the judgement was found you can read law reports.

Ianal but I don't believe that ' because Trudy says so' sets a legal precedent.

stomachamelon · 06/05/2024 14:49

@Humdingerydoo what do you expect? One rule for one.....

stomachamelon · 06/05/2024 14:48

@DistinguishedSocialCommentator well said.

SummerFeverVenice · 06/05/2024 14:48

NecessaryNC24 · 06/05/2024 11:38

On October 6th there was an ongoing Ceasefire.

And then look what happened.

There was no ceasefire on October 6th.

Parkingt111 · 06/05/2024 14:48

@DistinguishedSocialCommentator they were not told to move out weeks ago, stop lying.

TextureSeeker · 06/05/2024 14:47

My thoughts are with everyone in Rafah, especially the mums who must be terrified for their babies. I pray that one day Palestinians get the peace and justice they deserve.

SummerFeverVenice · 06/05/2024 14:47

Humdingerydoo · 06/05/2024 11:23

I think it's important to not just forget that rockets were fired from Rafah yesterday to one of the border crossings between Gaza and Israel, causing death and destruction.

On a personal level I wish Israel wouldn't have retaliated like this, but let's not pretend Israel is just randomly attacking Rafah. Hamas knew exactly what they were doing when they fired those rockets from Rafah, and knew exactly what retaliation to expect. As always, they are sacrificing their own people and as always, Israel are solely to be blamed by certain posters on here.

Are you for real? Israel has been bombing Rafah nonstop for seven months killing hundreds, if not thousands of civilians. Israel have been saying since March that they are definitely going to do a ground invasion of Rafah.

Hamas shoots one round of rockets yesterday that kills seven soldiers (legitimate military targets), and you are saying the Rafah ground invasion is in retaliation for yesterday?

I am astounded by your ability for selective amnesia.

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