Rafah bombings (Edited by Mumsnet)

Imagine having to be told to give aid to the people you have been purposefully starving for the past 6 months. Imagine having to be told that you have to let innocent people evaluate before you blow up their homes. The whole thing is utterly disgusting. Having to be dragged in front of the ICJ and still not giving aid until they were threatened with having their money cut off by Daddy Warbucks Biden. I don't think I've ever seen anything as gross in my life as the determination Israel had to starve the innocent people that they have been bombing and denying healthcare to. It really showed that there is not a glimmer of humanity in the Israeli government.

No they haven’t. The crossing is undamaged, not one single rocket hit it. IDF closed the crossing in retaliation.
Read the article
https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-799923

The rest is not true either. The first aid convoys to the north were turned back by IDF. They continue to be stopped by IDF.

You're the one who believes Netanyahu's fairy stories 🤦‍♀️

@TrudyProud What special interest group are you talking about?

This is totally contrary to what multiple international agencies on the ground have reported.

@ConnieCounter so rude.... how old are you? It's factual. Jordan? Syria? Egpyt?

Two very different things. Nothing, but nothing, will threaten the right for Israel to exist after that, I am afraid.

In the meantime Netanyahu has been saying loud and clear that Palestinians already have their own State, Syria, and therefore did not need any territory in Palestine :(, since the 1970s.

@ConnieCounter Hamas has just forced the closure of the kerem shalom crossing for humanitarian aid by firing rockets at it. Earlier it hijacked the first aid convoy through the new passage to the north. In recent days it has shot mortars at the humanitarian corridor , disrupted aid from going from north to south and prevented civilians from receiving humanitarian aid.

It's obvious to me who is at fault.

And it is quite possible to support Israel’s right to exist and expect their government and the IDF to not commit war crimes.

Hamas are firing rockets at aid being delivered

Alot of western news media outlets have misreported the attack as an attack on the crossing itself. It was not. It was in the Kerem Shalom area which is quite large. The crossing was un damaged, not hit. IDF has closed the crossing and cut off humanitarian aid in retaliation.

There was no aid being delivered where the rockets went:

”Egypt’s state-affiliated Al Qahera news TV has quoted an unnamed “high-level” source as saying that Sunday’s attack near the Karem Abu Salem (Kerem Shalom) crossing between Gaza and Israel had caused an impasse in the ceasefire talks.”

near…not at the crossing. Israel then closed the crossing…which was not bombed.

“Four IDF soldiers were killed and at least three others were seriously wounded after Hamas fired ten rockets toward the Kerem Shalom area along the Israel-Gaza border on Sunday afternoon.”

Kerem Shalom is also a kibbutz in the area
“Additionally, a home in Kibbutz Kerem Shalom was hit and damaged, according to the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries were reported in the impact in Kibbutz Kerem Shalom.”
https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-799923

That and the fact they don’t trust Israel to ever let refugees back into Gaza. Which is probably a fairly reasonable concern.

So rude, given what's happening to the population of Gaza at Israel's hand.

I can't believe you don't believe that Israel has been blocking the aid.

Remarkable.

I stand with Israel but not necessarily wholly supportive of the leader's and the IDF's actions.

Millions do stand and support Israel's right to exist.

The irony of your name and your posts is quite amusing.

Maybe instead of asking about Egypt, ask why Israel is bombing Gaza into the stone age?

Anyway you're making little sense and your views are hateful so I'm not going to talk to you any more.

Israel was told to put a contingency plan in place and safe evacuation.
They have.
They were told to provide humanitarian aid.
They did. (Hamas bombed the crossing)
Hamas steal the aid.
They refuse to make any concessions at discussions for release of the hostages.
They continue to hold hostages including children.
The main players of Oct 7th that remain in Gaza have not been caught and rockets have been fired from humanitarian areas. Therefore Hamas has a presence in Rafah.

I think the answer to that can be seen if you look at all these Hamas marches, sit ins and rise of anti-semitism. Mission accomplished

Oh, not the siege then that Gallant established on 9th of October that hasn’t been lifted. Yours seems an odd viewpoint.

I'm confused.

Are you saying Hamas ARE NOT using Palestinians as human shields

Surely a typo?

Acting ingorantly just shows you have no answer

But to remind you

Why is Egypt right next door to Gaza, or Iran/UAE/Lebonnon ETC not telling, bringing out people to their vast countries - WHY??????

That's right, no one wants them in their country as they fear it beingdestabilised - you've got the answer, now just admit but you wont as you have your agenda that I will never accpet

How anyone, irrespective of nationality, creed, race, politics, or anything at all, can now still stand by Netanyahu and the IDF, and Israel- is just unbelievable.

They were told to go to the South to be safe, and now this. There are just NO words.

History like this?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/16/sabra-and-shatila-massacre-40-years-on-explainer

Well, IDF has besieged Gaza. Gallant put the siege on Oct 9th.

“I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed,” Gallant says following an assessment at the IDF Southern Command in Beersheba. “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly,”

Palestinians can’t leave Gaza. The HRW called this out as another rights violation - the right to flee a war zone.

@SummerFeverVenice Egypt also has its own history with Rafah.