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Rafah bombings (Edited by Mumsnet)

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TwilightSkies · 06/05/2024 09:10

Where the hell are all the Palestinians meant to go now?
They were TOLD to go to Rafah, that Rafah was a safe place.
It’s just open extermination at this point.

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Efacsen · 06/05/2024 21:13

MushMonster · 06/05/2024 21:08

How do they intend to differenciate between displaced civilians and Hamas hiding amonst them when they get to this new camps?
I do not see this clearly at all.

There was a suggestion during the week that there would be a ring of checkpoints and only women children and men of 'non-fighting age' would be allowed to evacuate from Rafah

MushMonster · 06/05/2024 21:12

I heard on the radio Israel is prepared to negotiate.
Spokesperson for US, it could have been Blinken, still saying they want a ceasefire (6 weeks), no Rafah attack and more aid in.

NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 06/05/2024 21:09

MushMonster · 06/05/2024 21:08

How do they intend to differenciate between displaced civilians and Hamas hiding amonst them when they get to this new camps?
I do not see this clearly at all.

According the the IDF numbers; if you are an adult male, you are Hamas.

stomachamelon · 06/05/2024 21:09

I have read it's started (Rafah) I may be wrong.

MushMonster · 06/05/2024 21:08

How do they intend to differenciate between displaced civilians and Hamas hiding amonst them when they get to this new camps?
I do not see this clearly at all.

TextureSeeker · 06/05/2024 21:05

ConnieCounter · 06/05/2024 20:48

So will Hamas stay behind and get bombed and let the civilians out or how does that work?

I think they stay behind and wave white flags, just to make sure they get executed quickly.

IhateSPSS · 06/05/2024 21:04

The comments on that Fail article linked above. I really hope they aren't real people who really think like that and are just bots. Right wing grim.

mollyfolk · 06/05/2024 21:01

Dulra · 06/05/2024 20:53

because it has yet to see a credible and implementable plan to protect the over one million Palestinians sheltering there,

Pity they didn't take this position 40,000 lives ago

Sure there was never a credible plan to protect Palestinian lives.

The US need to act and not just pay lip service now. We are watching war crimes play out in front of our eyes and the US are still sending military aid. It just makes a mockery of international law and that makes us all less safe.

Dulra · 06/05/2024 20:56

MushMonster · 06/05/2024 20:53

Thanks.
I had seen the tents pictures indeed, but Khan Yunis is a long way for ill and injured people to travel still.
It does not seem big enough either, somehow.
I do hope that they make it there ok and stay safe. For some reason, it is not convincing me.

The US are also not convinced so currently not supporting a ground offensive in Rafah

MushMonster · 06/05/2024 20:53

Thanks.
I had seen the tents pictures indeed, but Khan Yunis is a long way for ill and injured people to travel still.
It does not seem big enough either, somehow.
I do hope that they make it there ok and stay safe. For some reason, it is not convincing me.

Dulra · 06/05/2024 20:53

Parkingt111 · 06/05/2024 20:48

This is the latest from the US less than two hours ago

The US will not support the Rafah offensive “currently envisioned by Israel” because it has yet to see a credible and implementable plan to protect the over one million Palestinians sheltering there, State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller says.

because it has yet to see a credible and implementable plan to protect the over one million Palestinians sheltering there,

Pity they didn't take this position 40,000 lives ago

Parkingt111 · 06/05/2024 20:48

This is the latest from the US less than two hours ago

The US will not support the Rafah offensive “currently envisioned by Israel” because it has yet to see a credible and implementable plan to protect the over one million Palestinians sheltering there, State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller says.

ConnieCounter · 06/05/2024 20:48

So will Hamas stay behind and get bombed and let the civilians out or how does that work?

EasterIssland · 06/05/2024 20:35

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/05/2024 20:33

of course they would once the hostages were released and Hamsa and its leaders were taken out. There is no point in Israel just moving the problem a few yards up the road and that is a fact

Fact, Israel left Gaza years ago and look what Hams did to it

Fact. Israel doesn’t allow Palestinians returning.
fact as well. Israel has approved more settlers land than ever before

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/05/2024 20:35

ConnieCounter · 06/05/2024 20:32

I already told you I'm not engaging with you anymore.

But you just did and that is a fact.

Therefore, run away as you know what the answer is to this and I reiterate

Two questions that may put you into a self-ban on this thread

Why are the Hamas leaders not telling their operatives to realsed the men and women held as hostages??

Why has Egypt not allowed people into Egypt for safety until Hams are whipped out??

Simple questions and simple answers but I but you will never address them directly as its not suiting your stance

FYI, I want the the isrealie leader to go as well as Hamas.

EasterIssland · 06/05/2024 20:34

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/05/2024 20:32

@ConnieCounter

Two questions that may put you into a self-ban on this thread

Why are the Hamas leaders not telling their operatives to realsed the men and women held as hostages??

Why has Egypt not allowed people into Egypt for safety until Hams are whipped out??

Simple questions and simple answers but I but you will never address them directly as its not suiting your stance

FYI, I want the the isrealie leader to go as well as Hamas.

  1. Hamas kidnapped people because they wanted to use them for an exchange with prisoners. They’ll not release them without achieving anything. This is how terrorist groups work. They kill / kidnap innocent people in order to achieve something
  2. Will Palestinians be allowed to return?
DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/05/2024 20:33

EasterIssland · 06/05/2024 20:29

Would Israel allow the Palestinians back once they’ve finished destroying Gaza?

of course they would once the hostages were released and Hamsa and its leaders were taken out. There is no point in Israel just moving the problem a few yards up the road and that is a fact

Fact, Israel left Gaza years ago and look what Hams did to it

Efacsen · 06/05/2024 20:33

From the Guardian

Israel still plans to proceed with a 90-day plan to invade Rafah, which Washington is committed to stopping, a US official familiar with truce negotiations between Hamas and Israel told Reuters on Monday.

“Netanyahu and the war cabinet have not appeared to approach the latest phase of negotiations (with Hamas) in good faith,” the official told Reuters, asking not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the matter

ConnieCounter · 06/05/2024 20:32

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/05/2024 20:32

@ConnieCounter

Two questions that may put you into a self-ban on this thread

Why are the Hamas leaders not telling their operatives to realsed the men and women held as hostages??

Why has Egypt not allowed people into Egypt for safety until Hams are whipped out??

Simple questions and simple answers but I but you will never address them directly as its not suiting your stance

FYI, I want the the isrealie leader to go as well as Hamas.

I already told you I'm not engaging with you anymore.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/05/2024 20:32

@ConnieCounter

Two questions that may put you into a self-ban on this thread

Why are the Hamas leaders not telling their operatives to realsed the men and women held as hostages??

Why has Egypt not allowed people into Egypt for safety until Hams are whipped out??

Simple questions and simple answers but I but you will never address them directly as its not suiting your stance

FYI, I want the the isrealie leader to go as well as Hamas.

EasterIssland · 06/05/2024 20:29

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/05/2024 20:27

Why has Egypt no open her boarders for temp housing them in total safety???

Would Israel allow the Palestinians back once they’ve finished destroying Gaza?

MushMonster · 06/05/2024 20:28

I do hope that all of them have packed it and go.
I suppose they have moved to the north. Do they have shelter, water, food, blankets, doctors? I hope so.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/05/2024 20:27

PeasfullPerson · 06/05/2024 20:22

I wonder where all the people who left Rafah today have gone. I hope they find somewhere relatively safe to sleep the night, and that they were able to take whatever supplies they have left. Life can be so unfair.

Why has Egypt no open her boarders for temp housing them in total safety???

PeasfullPerson · 06/05/2024 20:22

I wonder where all the people who left Rafah today have gone. I hope they find somewhere relatively safe to sleep the night, and that they were able to take whatever supplies they have left. Life can be so unfair.