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..but would someone mind explaining what is happening in Palestine

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IcePoleQueen · 24/04/2024 08:24

..and why?

Admittedly, I really do not follow current affairs. I don't watch television or read newspapers etc. I know there is conflict and a lot of people have sadly lost their lives, but I don't understand why?

I have tried to read up on Palestine, Gaza, Israel.. but it's very confusing and seems to stem back decades.

Please can someone explain the history and current situation in plain, simple terms.

Thank you.

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TessTackle · 14/08/2024 21:09

Comedycook · 14/08/2024 21:09

why do we deserve a state all to ourselves?

Why don't we?

Why do we?

What makes us so much more special than everyone else?

Comedycook · 14/08/2024 21:09

why do we deserve a state all to ourselves?

Why don't we?

TessTackle · 14/08/2024 21:00

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justbeingasmartarse · 14/08/2024 21:00

Palestine can stop this now. The people elected terrorists Hamas. The good people need to take control and elect a new government.
It’s unlikely Hamas would let them do that.

ZingyZebra · 14/08/2024 20:59

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TessTackle · 14/08/2024 20:57

Kingoftheroad · 14/08/2024 20:48

You’re delusional you really are. Sanctions have been imposed and I agree sometimes disproportionately. However, Palestine have broken every peace agreement ever made.

This is not genocide. We couldn’t stop
the Nazis slaughtering us. We done nothing but exist. Palestine can stop this now. The people elected terrorists Hamas. The good people need to take control and elect a new government.

I have personally witnessed Jewish Doctors and medics working in Palestine long before this. Israel have paid for and built hospitals.

How anyone can think that slaughtering people at a concert is justified is totally beyond me.

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The Genocide of our people doesn’t befit the Genocide of another, nor does Genocide apply only to Jews.

ZingyZebra · 14/08/2024 20:57

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TessTackle · 14/08/2024 20:55

Kingoftheroad · 14/08/2024 20:48

You’re delusional you really are. Sanctions have been imposed and I agree sometimes disproportionately. However, Palestine have broken every peace agreement ever made.

This is not genocide. We couldn’t stop
the Nazis slaughtering us. We done nothing but exist. Palestine can stop this now. The people elected terrorists Hamas. The good people need to take control and elect a new government.

I have personally witnessed Jewish Doctors and medics working in Palestine long before this. Israel have paid for and built hospitals.

How anyone can think that slaughtering people at a concert is justified is totally beyond me.

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Hold your horses.

Please do show me where I said the 7th of October was justified?

”Sanctions”?! That is an absolute joke.
I have seen more dead bodies since October (of Palestinians never Israelis funnily enough) than any one person should ever see in their lifetime.

How do you propose the Palestinians elect a new government when their entire country is being reduced to rubble?
The last ceasefire was actually agreed to by both parties and who broke it by bombing indiscriminately? Israel.

Lalaloveya · 14/08/2024 20:50

Kingoftheroad · 14/08/2024 20:48

You’re delusional you really are. Sanctions have been imposed and I agree sometimes disproportionately. However, Palestine have broken every peace agreement ever made.

This is not genocide. We couldn’t stop
the Nazis slaughtering us. We done nothing but exist. Palestine can stop this now. The people elected terrorists Hamas. The good people need to take control and elect a new government.

I have personally witnessed Jewish Doctors and medics working in Palestine long before this. Israel have paid for and built hospitals.

How anyone can think that slaughtering people at a concert is justified is totally beyond me.

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Israel has bombed every hospital in Gaza.

People blaming the Palestinians for what's happening to them, which may very well be genocide, is beyond me.

Kingoftheroad · 14/08/2024 20:48

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You’re delusional you really are. Sanctions have been imposed and I agree sometimes disproportionately. However, Palestine have broken every peace agreement ever made.

This is not genocide. We couldn’t stop
the Nazis slaughtering us. We done nothing but exist. Palestine can stop this now. The people elected terrorists Hamas. The good people need to take control and elect a new government.

I have personally witnessed Jewish Doctors and medics working in Palestine long before this. Israel have paid for and built hospitals.

How anyone can think that slaughtering people at a concert is justified is totally beyond me.

KittenQuibbles · 14/08/2024 20:32

Dulra · 14/08/2024 20:29

Totally agree but tbf this thread was started in April op may be long gone. No idea why @Fastfad resurrected it today?

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Oh yes, you're right. I thought it was a new post

1dayatatime · 14/08/2024 20:32

@KittenQuibbles

"Well said. These goady threads are happening multiple times a day now - we need to identify, see them for what they are and ignore. Totally disingenuous and designed to poke, create division and stoke hatred."

@IcePoleQueen
Suggestions for other future posts:

"I don't know much about international affairs but could someone explain to me why Russia is bombing children in Ukraine " (you can also use this one for Gaza)

Or

I don't know much about politics but could someone please explain to me why the rioters decided to attack a hotel housing refugees "

Etc etc

Neither of which are designed to educate or inform but to provoke and sow division.

blackcherryconserve · 14/08/2024 20:30

Dulra · 14/08/2024 20:29

Totally agree but tbf this thread was started in April op may be long gone. No idea why @Fastfad resurrected it today?

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Another goady poster perhaps?

Dulra · 14/08/2024 20:29

KittenQuibbles · 14/08/2024 20:22

Well said. These goady threads are happening multiple times a day now - we need to identify, see them for what they are and ignore. Totally disingenuous and designed to poke, create division and stoke hatred.

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Totally agree but tbf this thread was started in April op may be long gone. No idea why @Fastfad resurrected it today?

blackcherryconserve · 14/08/2024 20:29

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I'm absolutely fine, thanks for asking.

KittenQuibbles · 14/08/2024 20:22

1dayatatime · 14/08/2024 20:16

@IcePoleQueen

Such a predictable goady post - once polarisation of views is in full swing the OP is noticeably absent.

If the true purpose of this thread was to be informed (as per the opening question) rather than stir then one would have expected further comments from OP, but nothing...

Well done on achieving the purpose of polarising views, creating more animosity and making any possibility of seeing the topic from the other side harder ultimately making any compromise solution more difficult to achieve.

Well said. These goady threads are happening multiple times a day now - we need to identify, see them for what they are and ignore. Totally disingenuous and designed to poke, create division and stoke hatred.

1dayatatime · 14/08/2024 20:16

@IcePoleQueen

Such a predictable goady post - once polarisation of views is in full swing the OP is noticeably absent.

If the true purpose of this thread was to be informed (as per the opening question) rather than stir then one would have expected further comments from OP, but nothing...

Well done on achieving the purpose of polarising views, creating more animosity and making any possibility of seeing the topic from the other side harder ultimately making any compromise solution more difficult to achieve.

TakeMe2Insanity · 14/08/2024 20:15

blackcherryconserve · 14/08/2024 19:43

Just listen to yourself indeed. The IDF has not used civilians as human shields. This is on Hamas.

I believe theres a whole thread filled with numerous examples of the state of Israel using Palestinian men, women and CHILDREN as human shields despite their own courts telling them not to!

Just one example

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/23/idf-investigates-soldier-tied-palestinian-man-to-vehicle-bonnet?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

With a little effort you can find more.

IDF investigates soldiers who tied Palestinian man to vehicle’s bonnet

Military says conduct seen in video from occupied West Bank city of Jenin ‘does not conform’ to its values

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/23/idf-investigates-soldier-tied-palestinian-man-to-vehicle-bonnet?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

TessTackle · 14/08/2024 20:04

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You seem in a self destructive mode. You used a laughing emoji - that denotes you think the post is funny.

TessTackle · 14/08/2024 19:58

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blackcherryconserve · 14/08/2024 19:55

TessTackle · 14/08/2024 19:54

Hilarious that when actual evidence is presented to you that you resort to name calling and claims of antisemitism 😂

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Glad you think such a serious subject is worthy of mirth.

TessTackle · 14/08/2024 19:54

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Hilarious that when actual evidence is presented to you that you resort to name calling and claims of antisemitism 😂

TessTackle · 14/08/2024 19:53

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