Why is Israel determined to start WW3?

Isreal has done a fantastic job of ignoring the hostages whilst carpet bombing and starving Gaza.

And the ridiculous playground, must have last word, nonsense. WTAF!

Let's imagine, just for a minute, that the entire world, and every person in it was pacifist. Human beings could have built such a wonderful world. Just think of all the money even that we could have spent on other things.
I know it could never happen btw, human beings are sadly far to blood thirsty and hate filled.

I think that will be it for a while. The brush off from Israel's attack is indicative of Iran not responding.
I think things will start to quieten down now.... until the next time.
I do not believe we will have WW3 any time soon. I do believe we will keep edging closer to it though but not enough for all out war. I hate these tense times.

I agree.
Killing each others children for decades over a little bit of land.

I don't think either side give a shit about any hostages.

Men and ego explains most war.

This is a weird take. But anyway, you dont get to just move the goalposts. You said Israel was only interested in peace in its own terms. Yet evidence suggests that is not entirely true. You cant just say you dont like the evidence & would like to talk about something else. I think its probably true that some Israelis are willing to sacrifce the hostages in a bigger picture. I fear its academic anyway as I doubt they are all alive. Part of that bigger picture is that Hamas chose to conduct the largest attack on Jews since the Holocaust, with the backing of Iran. I think for all Israelis it very much is about that.

A few hostages vs war/ peace in an entire region. This has never been about the hostages.

How can Israel ignore the hostages in a peace deal?

I’m nor talking about the hostages, but about the settlement policies that have been claiming Palestine lands for decades.

I don't know the history before the 1940's but certainly after the British and others stuck their oar in and put an arbitary dividing line in and around Jerusalem and insisting that the Israelis would have 'British' protection/ listening ear probably as a sop for things the British did, Israel has consistently demanded to be 'special' and like an insecure child goes running to 'mommy' if the other boys and girls say bad things: Escalate this idea to a state with nuclear capability and ruthless 'security forces' and you are pretty much where we are now. Israel has been controlling others in the region and encroaching on land and water rights 'granted' to others in the past.

That's not borne out by the facts at all, is it? Have you actually looked at the terms of recent peace deals - and the ones Hamas rejected? The last hostage release included Israel releasing far more people than Hamas. Many of the people Israel released had committed attacks etc against Israelis. The hostages were young people at a rave, elderly jewish peace activists in their homes, foreign students on work exchanges. Entirely innocent. Yet considered fair game, not just by the Hamas operatives that murdered & kidnapped them but also those in Gaza and here who celebrated the 7 Oct atrocity and claimed it was legitimate 'resistance'.

It is a distraction. Whilst Netanyahu is trying to drag us into a wider conflict, keep your eyes on Rafah and the West Bank.

I started off having some sympathy for Israel but that has gone now.

Iran sent hundreds of missiles at Israel because Israel attacked their embassy first, Israel started this

I don't think it's them. I think it's America.

There was a break in active armed conflict up until 7th October.

That's not the same thing as peace.

If you keep soneone pinned down for long enough, they either die, or break free and retaliate. See my above comment, debating who started what is naive and pointless.

You don’t achieve piece by sending drones. You achieve it by talking and agreeing to compromises. The Israeli government will only accept peace if it’s on their terms, which why this will never happen unless the attitude changes.

Alltheprettyseahorses · Yesterday 08:57
OP - you do know Iran sent hundreds of missiles and drones at Israel a few days ago don't you?! It's a bit ridiculous to say the least to blame a country for retaliating against an attack. This board is mental.”

Iran was retaliating.

Israel is hungry for peace, not war. There was peace on 6 October and look what Hamas did to end that.

As a parent, i know from my kids, any argument centred on who hit who first is futile and ultimately unfulfilling. You may as well debate who hated who first, it probably goes back 2500 years to someone swindling someone over a deal for camels, or land.

The only way to move forward is for both parties to admit their sins, apologise and then talk.

They arent. Since the Islamic revolution in Iran in 1979 Iran denounced Israel, cut off diplomatic relations, does not recognise Israel's right to exist & has been stirring up jew hatred in the region & attacking Israel through proxies such as funding and arming Hezbollah & Hamas who have been attacking Israel for years. The attack on the consulate (not embassy) was to take out people involved in organising attacks on Israel. Iran then sent a huge number of drones & missiles. Iran is a massive threat in the region as well as a barbaric theocratic dictatorship.

Israel doesn't have proxies. Would it really have been morally better if Israel had funded and planned with a group of Jewish militants to bomb the consulate? Why?

Im wondering the same thing. Netanyahu is looking to make himself some kind of hero, he’s actually just a bloody narcissistic maniac like Putin. Both cut from the same mold!