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ScrollingLeaves · 24/06/2024 11:19

BelleHathor · 24/06/2024 10:34

It's taken from a longer video where people were interviewed by Journalist Abby Martin.
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Thank you very much, @BelleHathor
I watched all of that and it certainly gives a much rounder picture of those Israeli views and how those interviewed come to think as they do. I appreciate you finding that full video to post. Thank you too @ConnieCounter for the earlier short clip.

I wonder if the left-wing man she interviewed, who sympathises with Palestinians and considers they live under apartheid, would consider Jewish Voice for Peace to be ‘sugar -coasters’, or would they be in agreement with him?

I was thinking of them as examples of alternative voices. They seemed impressive and brave to me in how they were standing up to settlers who were sabotaging the aid trucks.

ConnieCounter · 24/06/2024 10:43

ScrollingLeaves · 24/06/2024 08:42

This is so horrible, but is it possible? I have always had dogs, and don’t quite know how a dog would just do this if they had not been trained specifically. But if the IDF have (abused) rapist dogs wouldn’t we have heard more of it?

I don't know.

We do know that they torture detainees including sexual torture so whether this latest allegation is true or not it doesn't change that they use torture against detainees, many of whom are innocent civilians.

BelleHathor · 24/06/2024 10:34

ScrollingLeaves · 22/06/2024 20:24

@ConnieCounter I don’t think the video was fake, but what
Vittuunterroristit · 19/06/2024 22:13
probably meant was that it was a compilation of remarks selected for their racism, and giving the impression that these remarks are typical of all Israelis, which is not true.

So, say the interviewer had come across an Israeli peace campaigner, or anyone with relatively moderate views, they simply would not have included them in the video, or would have edited them out later.

Or, maybe they went to interview people from a group they knew would most likely all have these views, like the people on the Flag day procession.

It's taken from a longer video where people were interviewed by Journalist Abby Martin.
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ScrollingLeaves · 24/06/2024 08:42

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 24/06/2024 00:27

😢😬😳

This is so horrible, but is it possible? I have always had dogs, and don’t quite know how a dog would just do this if they had not been trained specifically. But if the IDF have (abused) rapist dogs wouldn’t we have heard more of it?

Dulra · 24/06/2024 08:09

If his account is true it is abuse far beyond anything I and many could even have imagined. I guess, if there was any doubt, it confirms how Palestinians are viewed and treated, as animals. I would seriously question the mental state of anyone that would do this to another human being, absolute monsters.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 24/06/2024 00:27

ConnieCounter · 24/06/2024 00:01

Oh dear. This must be what you are referring to.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8kXBXiM1TY/?igsh=MTVrbHV4NzFxczZ3dg==

😢😬😳

Scirocco · 24/06/2024 00:12

What the f*ck did I just watch...

anotherlevel · 23/06/2024 21:50

@poshsnobtwit Absolutely barbaric. Those poor people and children.

anotherlevel · 23/06/2024 21:49

@ConnieCounter Same I'm really hoping it is too.

ConnieCounter · 23/06/2024 21:44

poshsnobtwit · 23/06/2024 21:43

This has reminded me of an ex IDF soldier who spoke out about dogs being used to lick the genitals of detainees, including children :-(

Oh my God I never heard that.

poshsnobtwit · 23/06/2024 21:43

ConnieCounter · 23/06/2024 21:36

Oh fuck I really hope this turns out to be fake news. Jesus.

This has reminded me of an ex IDF soldier who spoke out about dogs being used to lick the genitals of detainees, including children :-(

ConnieCounter · 23/06/2024 21:36

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Oh fuck I really hope this turns out to be fake news. Jesus.

MoMo999 · 23/06/2024 21:18

ScrollingLeaves · 23/06/2024 14:09

I wonder what will become of this latest IDF war crime self-investigation?

Honestly I am so fed up with hearing that a country being tried for genocide by the ICJ is always the innocent victim, rather than also being an aggressor that commits its share of war crimes in this situation. It is baffling how blinkered some people can be.

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ScrollingLeaves · 23/06/2024 14:09

I wonder what will become of this latest IDF war crime self-investigation?

anotherlevel · 23/06/2024 14:02

ConnieCounter · 22/06/2024 23:42

Disgraceful, but it's what we expect from the IDF at this stage.

I'm not sure why people who support the IDF justify the killings of Palestinians by saying Hamas use them as human shields when we have so many documented examples of the IDF doing it.

And here's the latest example

www.instagram.com/p/C8hUOaEAoUo/?igsh=MXh6bW9ua3o0cmtobA==

MoMo999 · 23/06/2024 00:02

ConnieCounter · 22/06/2024 23:42

Disgraceful, but it's what we expect from the IDF at this stage.

I'm not sure why people who support the IDF justify the killings of Palestinians by saying Hamas use them as human shields when we have so many documented examples of the IDF doing it.

I think that is an absurd argument anyway re Hamas doing it. Imagine if there was a hostage situation in Britain and the hostage takers tried to use hostages as human shields? Does anyone in their right minds think the British police would open fire? Of course not.

What is being said is the equivalent of saying I commit war crimes because you make me do it. Now who else says they are violent to someone because that person made them angry...... oh that is right, people who are considered abusive.

ConnieCounter · 22/06/2024 23:42

Disgraceful, but it's what we expect from the IDF at this stage.

I'm not sure why people who support the IDF justify the killings of Palestinians by saying Hamas use them as human shields when we have so many documented examples of the IDF doing it.

EasterIssland · 22/06/2024 23:38

Scirocco · 22/06/2024 23:34

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjqq5n8911do

Doesn't seem particularly moral to me.

Can you see the ambulance on the picture ?

from the news
”The individual was eventually transferred to the Red Crescent for treatment”

no , it wasn’t that ambulance he was transferred to

also a note to those saying they’re at war. This is West Bank. Not at war (or so do they say despite idf is behaving as if they were)

ConnieCounter · 22/06/2024 23:04

anotherlevel · 22/06/2024 22:57

GRAPHIC CONTENT

Another attack that has taken place in the Al Shujaya neighbourhood in North Gaza. In the video they are searching for the missing parts of a beheaded girl.

Please do not open if you're finding it too hard because it really is upsetting and you're already in agreement that this is a crime and a genocide.

If, however, you justify it then open your eyes. Please.

www.instagram.com/reel/C8hE9XetI2P/?igsh=eGZ2bHZsa3R4c3h3

Jesus Christ. I managed about 10 seconds of that. Absolute barbarity.

ScrollingLeaves · 22/06/2024 23:04

PeasfullPerson · Today 22:27
I’ve not had a chance to read this yet. All I can now think of is

Why 355 bullets.

I am not sure why.

The Earshot forensic
team were able to work out the number and speed of bullets from background noise of shooting during the telephone call. They said that was only possible from a certain type of gun the IDF but not Hamas are using.

@PeasfullPerson I watched the film
‘The Night Won’t End’: Biden’s War on Gaza 29/30 minutes in.
https://www.aljazeera.com/program/fault-lines/2024/6/21/the-night-wont-end-bidens-war-on-gaza-2

‘The Night Won’t End’: Biden’s War on Gaza

Fault Lines investigates killings of civilians by the Israeli military in Gaza and the United States’s role in the war.

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/fault-lines/2024/6/21/the-night-wont-end-bidens-war-on-gaza-2

anotherlevel · 22/06/2024 22:57

GRAPHIC CONTENT

Another attack that has taken place in the Al Shujaya neighbourhood in North Gaza. In the video they are searching for the missing parts of a beheaded girl.

Please do not open if you're finding it too hard because it really is upsetting and you're already in agreement that this is a crime and a genocide.

If, however, you justify it then open your eyes. Please.

www.instagram.com/reel/C8hE9XetI2P/?igsh=eGZ2bHZsa3R4c3h3

PeasfullPerson · 22/06/2024 22:39

Thanks for the correction. It’s still horrendous, but perhaps someone will be along in a minute to say how this makes
it all OK.