This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 3)

@Humdingerydoo FWIW There were some posts stating/commenting on the number of civilian deaths and deaths of non civilians when the news came out but none were gleeful, saying 'only' and I honestly do not recall any memes mocking the dead. The one you posted from Reddit I've never seen before until now.

I recall seeing comments about how the number was not what was reported, much about Israel lying, that Israel had killed many of their own, that Israel made lots of claims up, eg rape was made up, exaggerated etc. Huge amount of anti semitism. A thread about fake news that contained much fake news itself. Threads about why rape wasn't believed with comments from other sites that were disgusting.

So many deleted comments of things said thar many threads are hard to read and don't flow going back to them. So much hatred.

I do also recall what @Humdingerydoo suggests.

I did think. I just assumed people would remember it! Like, it happened. It hadn't occurred to me that people would say it didn't.

And if it helps, your response to me saying I can't find it was also entirely expected. But deep down, I know you can see sense in my reasons. It just wouldn't suit this current discussion for you to acknowledge it. I get it.

I've seen the same things, but in your alternative universe you can call pp a liar. As per usual it's FIFO on these threads.

So well done, you win

Just childish playground talk

Just a thought maybe just think before posting unpleasant hyperbolic blaming posts for which you can't provide even a shred of evidence

Surely you'd expect to be challenged?

'It's all been deleted' was entirely expected

I give up. Between deleted threads, deleted comments, deleted content from social media links that have been posted and the amount of threads and posts there are on this board, I can't provide proof. I know it was on Mumsnet I came across the image I shared earlier on Reddit as this is the only place I discuss this stuff. I wouldn't dare to anywhere where my real name would be known as I don't particularly enjoy death threats and harassment, so I exclusively stick to this anonymous forum.

You know it's not entirely reasonable to expect me to be able to prove something that was posted probably 5-7 months ago. You know I can't do a search for links or images. Key words don't work as every single thread is about exactly the same thing. But the comments were made. I know a lot of them were deleted, as you'd expect as they were vile, but I'm sure some still stand. They could be in any of the hundreds of threads though.

Hopefully someone else will see this and remember what I'm talking about and confirm I'm not going crazy. But also, you guys not remembering these posts doesn't mean much as it wouldn't be memorable to you. Why would you remember something that doesn't mean anything to you? It's obviously going to be more memorable to those who are appalled by it.

So well done, you win. I currently can't prove it so we can all keep pretending it didn't happen as obviously posters on this board would never sink so low.

Israel are not letting people leave. It took months and months for Ireland to be able to help get an Irish citizen home. I think it was only at the end of last month he finally got back here, the Irish government had been trying to help him back since October but Israel would not issue him a permit to leave. That is a man with a foreign passport who had the help of his government. Unless you have a lot of money and connections there is no way out so ordinary Palestinians are trapped.

Never seen this before on here

Not sure.

Poland gave shelter to over 5 million Ukraine people. Many returned later although lots haven't and hope to return one day. Other countries surrounding Ukraine offered homes to others.

I can wait

If these 'gleeful' comments were as common as you say and made such an impression on you they won't be difficult for you to find?

I don't understand, are you expecting me to have this all saved somewhere on my computer or something? Or for me to be able to trawl through every single comment made on this board, and to do it all in a matter of minutes?

Okay so you can't show me one single 'gleeful' MN post

Just a vague they were things like this

I've linked above to the kind of thing that was posted, but it was screenshots and tweets rather than Reddit.

So can you show me just one of these 'gleeful* posts on MN and prove me wrong?

edited for clarity

https://www.reddit.com/r/socialism/comments/17q7yjl/israel_released_a_list_of_the_dead_on_7th_october/

These kind of things were linked to multiple times on this board, but mostly on twitter. I don't have twitter so can't search through it to find exact ones. Can only see a tweet if I click on a direct link. It was all mocking and full of absolutely revolting comments, and people on here agreeing with those posting on Twitter.

Why on earth are neighbouring countries not taking people in like Europe did with Ukraine?
There's enough money in certain countries to manage it. Its absolutely disgusting, especially when some of those countries are probably far more behind pushing and funding hamas than palestine was.

And it's not just a tiny fringe minority who are pushing who are outrageously pushing for the construction of settlements in Gaza

This January, he was one of 11 government ministers and 15 coalition lawmakers who attended a mass conference advocating the rebuilding of Jewish Israeli settlements in the heart of the Gaza Strip.

No, that's not the topic I'm not wanting to discuss, I'm not wanting to keep discussing the amount of dead Palestinians. I thought it was all part of one conversation but it seems there are now two separate conversations.

I think the level of antisemitism seen will obviously depend on the spaces that you frequent, which is why some of us don’t see a lot of it.

I don’t remember seeing this on Mumsnet. Did they target the Jewish board? Or specific threads?

Government minister rallies people to join a march to push for new Israeli settlements in Gaza.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/haredi-minister-endorses-march-calling-to-establish-new-settlements-in-gaza/

I'd be interested to see just one such post

But @Humdingerydoo doesn't want to talk about it now - most likely because they can't substantiate it

No I'm being serious I really didn't. Although ofcourse I'm not saying that just because I didn't that it didn't happen and I have no idea what pvt is

From the news I’ve linked

They showed 24,686 dead which appeared to be a downward revision from the figure of about 35,000 which had been reported earlier in May, with 7,797 children and 4,959 women confirmed dead, about half the toll cited in previous reports. But the UN said on Monday that estimated overall death toll remained about 35,000.

The overall number of fatalities [was] tallied by the ministry of health in Gaza, which is our counterpart on dealing with the death tolls. That number remains unchanged, and it’s more than 35,000 people since October

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so no, the numbers haven’t changed. 25k identified . 35 k in total

That 10k is separate from the 35000. It's the ratios within the 35000 that has changed so it turns out a lot more of them were men than previously suggested.