This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 3)

Hamas committed awful acts but the scale of the horror the idf and Israeli government are committing daily ever since is far, far greater.

Hamas also offered to return the hostages on October 8th or 9th, for a ceasefire deal, and several times since. It’s Israel who won’t agree to a ceasefire.

Thank you. So there are things to get Israel to stop and negotiate more.

They might do that if hamas release hostages as well.

Now what about stopping hamas, how can we help with that? Can we do anything to get them to release the people they kidnapped?

Both sides must agree otherwise we aren't going anywhere.

@Factsareimportantplease the uk could

• stop supplying the parts for weapons
• impose sanctions on Israel
• recognise Palestine 🇵🇸

I think the last 9 months have shown that you can’t stop a genocide by asking nicely (not that the uk government has even really done that)

I said probably. The US might be able by withdrawal of weapons, which could cause a catastrophe for Israel.

The UK has no power over Israel. The pro pal marchers don't appear to realise that.

And how might this happen? Israel has violated a plethora of international laws with impunity, for years, so that means nothing.

@Finallyloggedin exactly. It's been shut down a lot etc.

Furthermore, I find it quite sad—though perhaps that's not the best term to use—that we always have to reiterate the principle of the avoidance of doubt in the wake of an Israeli crime, but that the same scrutiny isn't applied to the opposite situation.

You could probably force Israel. You couldn't force hamas to stop though.

"the operational procedure was used at three army facilities attacked by Hamas, potentially endangering civilians as well."

I imagine knowing what hamas might do to army members it used at army facilities. I cannot imagine how awful this instruction is with army personnel.

https://secure.avaaz.org/campaign/en/arms_sales_to_israel_2_1/?copy

https://x.com/abierkhatib/status/1810163070376759451?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

“There’s no other way to stop this carnage in Gaza other than enforcing a ceasefire. Israel needs to be forced to”

Francesca Albanese

Glad you put this link. I had a strong feeling they did, having researched it.

@anotherlevel I’m so glad that finally the Hannibal directive is being reported in the UK. It has been hushed for so long. I wonder what number of Israelis were actually, tragically, killed by ‘friendly fire’.

For the avoidance of doubt - I am not trying to suggest that Hamas didn’t commit many awful atrocities and heinous war crimes on October 7th, the evidence is clear that they did.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01169-3/fulltext

The Lancet estimates the Gaza death toll could be 186,000 or even higher. Peer reviewed paper.

Israel army used the Hannibal directive during the attack on Oct 7.

www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/07/israel-idf-hannibal-protocol-hamas-attack-haaretz

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The lack of an effective policing force is contributing significantly to food distribution problems. There’s apparently a lot of anger against Hamas at the moment. The guys that were getting beaten up looked young and fit-so it’s likely that this is a cynical show of strength to shore up support for its operations.Anyone remember “kangaroo courts”?
Two wrongs=two wrongs, not a right.
Hamas are terrorists. They’re competing with vigilantes and rival terrorist groups. Probably hoping this video is being watched by people who have nothing to eat because of the distribution problems. Keep reposting if you want to help them
How does your post relate to a thread that is highlighting how the IDF, which has such technological excellence and intelligence, is prepared to accept such a high level of civilian death and injury to achieve effectively nothing significant ?

IDF Omerta.

Thank you for that.

In November, members of the women-only “spotters” unit deployed at two points along the Gaza perimeter said they had tried to warn their superiors on numerous occasions about unusual activity along the border fence before Hamas’s attack, but had been ignored. Fifteen spotters were killed on 7 October and another six taken hostage

The six IDF spotters taken hostage were the young women shown in the Hamas camcorder video of them being captured. They are particularly vulnerable.

https://x.com/beckettunite/status/1809941114725810655?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

“lsrael 🇮🇱 murdered 5 journalists in one day across Gaza City 🇵🇸 and Al-Nuseirat:

• Saadi Madhuk
• Adeeb Sukkar
• Amjad Al-Jahjouh
• Wafaa Abu Daba'n
• Rizq Abu Shakian

Israel has murdered 158 journalists since Oct 7th.

Murdered for telling the world of a genocide.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/07/israeli-government-accused-of-trying-to-sabotage-gaza-ceasefire-proposal

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/07/israel-idf-hannibal-protocol-hamas-attack-haaretz

@ScrollingLeaves law and order have pretty much completely broken down, leaving a vacuum for gangs to fight over scraps of power and where people are desperately struggling to keep their loved ones alive. This should have been preventable, but people didn't care enough about ordinary civilians in Gaza to actually put in place contingency plans and a strategy to mitigate this.

Ben-Ari (co founder) is known as a provocateur who has called left-wing NGOs “traitors that must be oppressed at any cost,” “internal bacteria” and “enemies of Israel.”

^This was taken from the link that I shared upthread. This party make it their business to terrorize Palestinians in the WB, set fire to their land, stage 'terrorist attacks' by Palestinians, and imprison Israeli 'traitors' who try to report/document their doings. The IDF stand back and watch them abusing Palestinians, so this is state sponsored terrorism. A pp had said Palestinians shouldn't have a state because of Hamas, so do they think the same about Israel?

This BBC report from June gives an idea of the general complete lawlessness.

Excerpt ( my bolding).

They blame growing lawlessness for making it too dangerous to pick up and move goods.

“The looting has become quite profound,” says Georgios Petropoulos, head of the UN Office for the Co-ordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) in Gaza. He estimates that last Tuesday, three-quarters of the goods on board lorries entering from the crossing were stolen.

UN officials say the vehicles are systematically attacked and stopped by armed gangs, particularly those smuggling cigarettes, which are sold on the black market in Gaza for exorbitant amounts. Lorries bringing fuel into Gaza have also recently been targeted.

As Israel’s military offensive has removed Gaza’s Hamas government, there is no plan for how to fill the power vacuum. There are few police officers left working in the Palestinian territory. It is not clear if organised crime cartels are affiliated to Hamas or Gazan clans.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv22ymmp46ro

They are probably trying to get aid for their families and Hamas beat them. Hamas are good for nobody just evil, cowardly scum

I’ve just found out from The Jerusalem post that the green writing means “Thief”.

It looks like a vicious form of justice.