This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 3)

I have just been reading about Nuseirat. It is dreadful. It seems that because Israeli special forces were going in to rescue the hostages, they bombarded everything else around indiscriminately.

Was that really necessary for military reasons? (Asking.)

Only the rescue will stand out in people’s minds though, while the tragic Palestinian deaths will be forgotten.

It's such a stark example of some lives being worth more than others. It's hard to imagine a situation in the West where we would kill so many people including women and children to save 4 people then loudly celebrate it as a win. It's a dreadful situation, negotiation needs to used and should have been used a long time ago. Killing children shouldn't be on the table as an option.

So much for no boots on the ground...

Spanish news say 210 death 400 injured

Reading rumours about US troops might have taken part on the release of hostages ?

https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1799434337584128278

People on twitter saying 150 people killed? Does anyone have any verified information on what happened and how many people were killed and injured? I can't find anything.

I know. It says a lot about what type of people they are. I wonder how they behave away from the anonymity of the keyboard. Are they the type of people who would help if they saw you in need of it? Would they walk away?

The double standards people have are appalling. To look the other way when some people suffer. We should condemn all suffering, all crimes, all murders and tortures. But some people have lost their humanity.

Some people even use this board for their own sick entertainment. Having a laugh at the pain of others.

This is true, and it is all terrible.

Innocent people, including children, have been killed and injured in Nuseirat. While the world cheers and celebrates the reunion of some innocent people, it forgets or ignores those families torn apart forever in the process.

How nightmare like. They need outside help so as to be able to make a data base for DNA, and examine bodies forensically - help they cannot have.

Compare that to what Israel was able to do after Oct 7, and it was difficult enough for them.

So sorry to hear about your friends @Scirocco

How can people be pro this? When you “other” a group people, when you dehumanise them, say they are not like us, their culture is different, they are inherently dangerous, when they are demonised ect… the result is always horror.

I mean I don’t need to tell you that.

I dread to think what else they'd find that happened.

Not until they withdraw and investigators can finally get access. It's a closed zone no independent press

Jesus. We'll never know the full horror of what they're doing.

New mass graves found in Jabalia refugee camp after Israeli occupation forces withdrew from the camp, the decomposed bodies were found when stray dogs started picking up the remains.

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https://x.com/HossamShabat/status/1799072081625399590

I agree @Scirocco this is a ridiculous attempt to justify the situation. What about places with civil war! The civilians generally outnumber armed factions, but that doesn’t mean they have the power or structural systems to easily over throw them!

The Palestinians outnumber Hamas and could force them to release the hostages so they are not simply innocent bystanders. Even the ones who didn't dance and cheer at the beaten/raped prisoners on display.

Well surely if it was that easy to get the hostages and get rid of Hamas that even unarmed civilians could do it why didn't the IDF send in foot soldiers to get them? rather than bombing the hell out of Gaza

This is absolutely ridiculous.

If, in that scenario, police started killing innocent members of the community, very few people would consider that an acceptable approach.

Palestinian civilians are largely unarmed, displaced, struggling to survive with physical and psychological injuries, malnutrition, etc. They cannot 'force' Hamas to do anything.

You are conflating innocent civilians with terrorists and their supporters. Please stop.

@Dulra agreed, utterly disgusting.

Thank you for the links, the horror just gets worse and worse.

I am appalled that Netanyahu will be getting the opportunity to address Congress in Washington. He is quoted as saying:

"I am very moved to have the privilege of representing Israel before both Houses of Congress and to present the truth about our just war against those who seek to destroy us to the representatives of the American people and the entire world," Mr Netanyahu said in the statement.

I hope this backfires spectacularly for Biden. Absolute disgrace they are giving him this platform to lie over and over and to try and justify what he and his government are doing to innocent Palestinians.

It is grim.

Rose said on his last visit he was struck “by the sheer number of people with crutches and wheelchairs with missing limbs, with wounds”.
He said many Palestinians in Gaza have tried to compartmentalise their lives to shield themselves from the horror.
“There will be a psychological reckoning at some point” he predicted, pointing out some families had moved as many as 10 times since the conflict started after the invasion by Hamas into Israel on 7 October. “People’s requirement to adjust repeatedly to the realities of life in Gaza is something that no one should have to put up with,” he said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/07/we-have-normalised-horror-says-agency-official-after-israeli-strike-on-school

@EasterIssland So glad to see that delegates are walking out of the UN in protest when they speak. Israel shouldn’t get to commit untold atrocities and then carry on with “life as normal”.

I also just got this https://secure.avaaz.org/campaign/en/olympics_ban_4_2/?copy

How can people still be pro- this???