This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 3)

Is this what the groups and people blocking aid want to see? Is this what they aimed for?

It can’t even be classed as an act of rage, there has been enough time to sit back, and reflect on what is being done here.

The cruelty of humans never ceases to amaze me. We haven’t learned very much.

I just came on to post that scirocco
It made me cry. Wtf are the Israeli government doing? How is this justified?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd119dz515wo

And it said it happened on the 29th of May.

The West Bank is also being punished for 7th October, over 500 Palestinians have been killed there since then, but because of the extreme Israeli actions in Gaza, it doesn’t seem to get as much attention.

How can anyone keep up with all this cruelty. There are some very grim human beings in the Israeli government.

It will cause more and more violence against Palestinians in the West Bank, more illegal settling and loss of Palestinians’ homes. A disaster for them. These people are illegal thugs and murderers.

Nothing says peace like giving far-right extremists more power in occupied land.

A cynical person might think that maybe the government aren't that interested in peace and little things like human rights. But no, surely that can't be the case... After all, this is the most moral army in the world...

What could go wrong.
Does anyone know why are they allowed to do that ?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/20/idf-transfers-powers-in-occupied-west-bank-to-pro-settler-civil-servants

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy66e20j531o

I've heard some of these arguments made by mumsnet posters. That's my point.

Do some Putin shill found a handful of racist Israelis, cut some clips together for insta and is trying to claim all Israelis are like that. What's your point?

Not surprising

Sorry this is almost definitely the wrong thread for this but I thought this video was interesting.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8Yw99Psczx/?igsh=MW51d2EybXB1ZXQ4MQ==

I was just looking it up and saw by chance that AP had done that fact check. I think it is very easy to forget how mistranslations do occur.

Thank you @ScrollingLeaves I'll ask MN to delete my post.

@anotherlevel , I think @Dulra is right - there has been a mistranslation:

AP FACT CHECK
Israeli PM announced plans to rebuild areas near Gaza border, not build inside the territory.

CLAIM: A video shows Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announcing in Hebrew plans to build settlements in the Gaza Strip, with a $5 billion investment from the U.S.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Netanyahu’s comments were translated incorrectly in English captions added to the video. He was referencing a five-year, $5 billion plan approved by the Israeli government on Wednesday to rebuild communities near the Gaza border, in the country’s Western Negev region. Netanyahu does not mention a U.S. investment.

THE FACTS: Social media users are using the miscaptioned video of Netanyahu speaking at the start of an Israeli Cabinet meeting on Wednesday to make erroneous claims about the alleged settlement plans.

The captions read in part: “Today the Cabinet will approve a plan to rebuild the settlements of the Gaza Strip. We will invest a very large sum of 19 billion shekels to make the settlements of the Gaza Strip available to generations.”

“BREAKING: Why did Israel commit the genocide in Gaza?” asks one X post that shared the video. Following an emoji of a finger pointing down next to the words “the answer,” the post continues: “Netanyahu unveils plans to construct settlements in Gaza, backed by a staggering investment of USD 5 billion.”
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-netanyahu-israel-gaza-settlements-810551452835

That does not mean there are not some extremist factions who do want to resettle Gaza.

@Dulra I did wonder the same actually and you're right.

Can anyone translate please and I apologies if it's wrong.

Is that a legitimate translation? As bad as he is I can't imagine him being this blatant

@anotherlevel , I don’t know, unfortunately, and was not able to see the whole article. Maybe it will be archived soon.

There was a much earlier (28 Nov 2023)
Guardian article about ignored evidence:
Israeli intelligence leak details extent of warnings over Hamas attack
Officer who reviewed intelligence considered risk of big attack ‘an imaginary scenario’, leak suggests
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/28/israeli-military-had-warning-of-hamas-training-for-attack-reports-say

I think they did not believe the evidence of a ‘plan’ of attack was evidence that Hamas really would attack, more that it was for show, and that Hamas field exercises, including kibbutz house mock-ups, that had been noted, were just general Hamas practice.

It is interesting imo that the senior intelligence officer who reported the
possible plan for an attack - which was ignored - was female.
In addition there were female border surveillance officers ‘spotting’ on the border whose reports were not taken seriously. (But I’ve already posted links about them often.)

@ScrollingLeaves I'd like to say that's shocking but it's not. Negligent to say the least. Does the report say why the warning was ignored? I mean it's so specific and detailed why would you ignore it? I'd sort of understand if it was a "hey Israel we're going to attack you soon" and that was it but it's not. Israel (government and IDF) do have a lot to answer for and failing to take precautions to prevent the atrocity of 7/10 is their part to blame in all this.

From Haaretz ( Israeli newspaper).

A document based on information from the IDF's military intelligence 8200 unit that included details of Hamas' plan to raid Israel was brought to the attention of at least some senior intelligence officials but apparently ignored, Israel's public broadcaster reported, citing unnamed sources who provided the document.

Report:
New Evidence Reveals IDF Had Detailed Prior Knowledge of Hamas Plan to Raid Israel

A never-before-seen IDF document surfaces startling new details of Hamas' operational plans to invade Israel; The report outlines Hamas orders to take between 200-250 Israelis hostage

A newly surfaced document reveals that Israel Defense Forces and Israeli intelligence systems had detailed knowledge of Hamas' plan to raid Israel, including the number of hostages to be taken and specific instructions for their treatment while in captivity.
Rachel Fink
June 18

From Haaretz (Israeli newspaper)

ISRAEL: Far-right National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir participated in a parliamentary caucus advocating for Israeli Jewish settlements in Gaza, and said he was committed to building settlements "throughout Gaza,"adding that re-settlement "must be accompanied by encouraging emigration" of Palestinians from the Strip, insisting that "If we do not promote emigration, we are deceiving ourselves.

What is not clear to me is whether he and Smotrich are considered to be extreme, and outliers, or leaders with a large following in proportion
to the population as a whole.

Yes, agreed.

Many soldiers must have felt they wanted to defend Israel and to do whatever they could to free the hostages, but it must be beginning to feel as though this is all going beyond that, while not getting the hostages out, and that it could just carry on endlessly.

”Stop! Now! We Mothers of Israeli Soldiers Demand an End to the Futile War in Gaza
I'm part of a movement of parents of IDF soldiers who once supported the war, but now oppose what has turned into a pointless death-trap for our children, a war led by an extremist government unwilling to ever end it.”
(Haaretz, Israeli newspaper, May 26 2024.)

Now there is a real danger of complete war with Lebanon too.

U.S.: CBS News reported that U.S. officials fear tensions between Israel and Hezbollah could erupt into a full-scale war. Some officials said they interpret the recent further-reaching Israeli strikes as "preparing the battlefield for a sweeping assault" into Lebanon by the Israeli army.
(Haaretz yesterday.)