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Scirocco · 31/05/2024 13:09

BelleHathor · 30/05/2024 23:30

Yeah his article really covered the complexity of the situation.

This article was trending, it basically argues that the requirement for the Israeli Government to avoid civilian casualties is based on a Christian understanding of society.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/live-law-die-cross-israel

I'd be interested in other people's views on this article too, in terms of where these views sit politically in the current political spectrum in Israel and if these are as widespread as seems to be suggested.

(Not in a 'placing blame or responsibility on others' way, but in a 'seeking to understand' way)

malengring · 31/05/2024 13:06

Finallyloggedin · 31/05/2024 13:02

https://x.com/kahlissee/status/1796310147012423894?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

Weirdly this is the first thing that just popped up on my timeline after writing the last post.

That's what all Zionists believe? Really?

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Finallyloggedin · 31/05/2024 13:02

https://x.com/kahlissee/status/1796310147012423894?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

Weirdly this is the first thing that just popped up on my timeline after writing the last post.

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https://x.com/kahlissee/status/1796310147012423894?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

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Finallyloggedin · 31/05/2024 12:59

Yes, when someone on here (not this thread, another one) said of all the Palestinians being killed “my conscience is clear” I guess this is what they meant?

I know lots of Jewish people are utterly appalled at what Israel are doing though. I guess this is on a similar level to the fundamental Christians who say “an eye for an eye”, etc? Or fundamental Islam?

it’s genuinely blown my mind. When I was reading it I kept on thinking he was listing all these awful concepts but was going to explain why they are awful at the end, but he just kept on getting worse!

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ScrollingLeaves · 31/05/2024 12:01

Finallyloggedin · 31/05/2024 10:24

I’ve just read this, it’s absolutely terrifying.

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Yes it is, and also fascinating.

If the principles based on Jewish religious beliefs (rather than the Western Christian ones) which he espouses were to dominate, or are dominating, Israeli decisions in regard to Palestinians - it would mean, or means, that there is a fundamental gulf of understanding between Israel and Western countries.
in spite of the West not being based on Muslim principles either.

BelleHathor · 31/05/2024 11:57

Finallyloggedin · 31/05/2024 10:24

I’ve just read this, it’s absolutely terrifying.

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Extremely, it kind of explains how the Netanyahu government and the extremists continue to justify their actions.

Scirocco · 31/05/2024 11:47

It's based on not violating international law.

But when has that ever stopped people...

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Finallyloggedin · 31/05/2024 10:24

BelleHathor · 30/05/2024 23:30

Yeah his article really covered the complexity of the situation.

This article was trending, it basically argues that the requirement for the Israeli Government to avoid civilian casualties is based on a Christian understanding of society.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/live-law-die-cross-israel

I’ve just read this, it’s absolutely terrifying.

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AhNowTed · 31/05/2024 09:39

Finallyloggedin · 30/05/2024 23:08

https://x.com/uriweltmann/status/1795932106494783659?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

Well done to the brave Israeli citizens standing up to the settlers who were trying to block the aid from getting through.

One of the comments (google translated from Hebrew)

"A settler really said "don't you have a heart?" While trying to starve innocent five-year-old children who are going through a hellish situation"

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Finallyloggedin · 31/05/2024 08:44

https://x.com/abierkhatib/status/1796382362403832155?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

Powerful speech by Matthew Cooke, Filmmaker

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Finallyloggedin · 31/05/2024 08:42

ScrollingLeaves · 31/05/2024 08:31

Very well done.

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❤️ They are good people, aren’t they?

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ScrollingLeaves · 31/05/2024 08:31

Finallyloggedin · 30/05/2024 23:08

https://x.com/uriweltmann/status/1795932106494783659?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

Well done to the brave Israeli citizens standing up to the settlers who were trying to block the aid from getting through.

Very well done.

BelleHathor · 30/05/2024 23:30

Yeah his article really covered the complexity of the situation.

This article was trending, it basically argues that the requirement for the Israeli Government to avoid civilian casualties is based on a Christian understanding of society.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/live-law-die-cross-israel

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Finallyloggedin · 30/05/2024 23:08

https://x.com/uriweltmann/status/1795932106494783659?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

Well done to the brave Israeli citizens standing up to the settlers who were trying to block the aid from getting through.

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https://x.com/uriweltmann/status/1795932106494783659?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

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Finallyloggedin · 30/05/2024 23:00

I’m not sure where to post this, it’s about the US press conferences -

https://x.com/jessicalburbank/status/1795941576645984464?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

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https://x.com/jessicalburbank/status/1795941576645984464?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

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PearlKoala · 30/05/2024 22:55

Finallyloggedin · 30/05/2024 22:39

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/30/two-more-us-officials-resign-over-biden-administrations-position-on-gaza-war

“I cannot do my job in an environment in which specific people cannot be acknowledged as fully human, or where gender and human rights principles apply to some, but not to others, depending on their race,” he wrote.

Saying what we are all seeing 👏👏👏

mollyfolk · 30/05/2024 22:50

BelleHathor · 30/05/2024 08:47

Thanks Finally an excellent article which resonates with me.

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This is excellent. Everything I was thinking but could not put into words.

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Finallyloggedin · 30/05/2024 20:49

@BelleHathor it really does, doesn’t it?

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BelleHathor · 30/05/2024 08:47

Finallyloggedin · 29/05/2024 23:31

https://www.onesmalldetail.blog/why-i-dont-talk-about-the-israeli-hostages/

Thanks Finally an excellent article which resonates with me.

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PearlKoala · 26/05/2024 23:52

ScrollingLeaves · 26/05/2024 22:08

The latest IDF deployment in Rafah is burning displaced people alive in tents.

This is an image from Al Jazeera’s video. Sky news has a similar image.

What have they gained? How many Hamas terrorists have actually been killed, or tunnels destroyed after all this? I don’t know what the answer is but too much is clearly wrong.

It's so upsetting. People ask why we protest and its because of this. Because I'm lying in my warm bed seeing horrific images of children who have been brutally killed. The feeling of hopelessness and helplessness. Somebody has to speak out for those poor children, we can't just pretend it isn't happening. Another area that was supposed to be a safe area, children who had been displaced who knows how many times in the past 7 months, children who have endured hunger and fear and loss, all for it to end like this. It's horrific, endless cruelty.

IbisDancer · 26/05/2024 23:45

The footage is shocking. Sadly not the first airstrike on refugee camps full of displaced in humanitarian safe zones. The navy has been doing sea based strikes all up and down the coastal parts.

ScrollingLeaves · 26/05/2024 22:08

The latest IDF deployment in Rafah is burning displaced people alive in tents.

This is an image from Al Jazeera’s video. Sky news has a similar image.

What have they gained? How many Hamas terrorists have actually been killed, or tunnels destroyed after all this? I don’t know what the answer is but too much is clearly wrong.

Bearing Witness to the genocide - Israeli Academic Lee Mordechai
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