Israeli hostage describes graphic sexual assault

Bit rich coming from someone who once said that Netanyahu needs taken out.

Thank you. I've had a large number of likes for the post. Silently people don't agree with the extreme views about Israel or Jewish people. Some of the vile views spouted from individuals show them up. People tend to ignore them, their shouting their views does them no service at all. Maybe that's why a large number of threads are echo chambers of people with similar views.

I've found that in real life too. Friends in London avoid the protest areas. You cannot talk to people with views like the ones now deleted, hatred, entrenched views, feeling that 1948 means what happens now is ok, (imagine if Jewish people kept killing ordinary Germans due to the millions killed by the Nazi). The teaching of hatred through generations helps no one at all. Moving forward towards peace for all is the only way.

Have a great day. 😊

@ScrollingLeaves thank God she and her teenage daughter were spared in that sense, although she's lost her other child and husband. I can't begin to imagine what the other hostages have been subjected to. Please let it be over soon. Too many people have been killed and tortured.

It is a mercy at least that some of the hostages were not sexually assaulted by their captors. An example is Amo-Goldstein. Horrific though their ordeals were in all the horror and carnage of the violence of Oct 7 - the slaughter of her husband and daughter - and their ensuing capture and subjugation by Hamas, Chen and her surviving teenage daughter, Agam, and her little boys were not treated this way by their captors.
This was an interview

It was Chen though to whom some poor captured girls she later met in the tunnels whispered they had been sexually assaulted. They told her as a mother figure. Chen was alerting everyone that this is the terrible sort of thing that was happening to hostages and they must not be forgotten.

“Every encounter with captives in Gaza was truly exciting,” said Almog-Goldstein. “But three of the women were wounded, some had complex injuries, and some spoke about sexual assaults.”

She said the group discussed reporting the allegations to a Hamas commander on their release. “By and large, the Hamas commanders seemed to be receptive enough that we thought there might be a chance of relaying it,” she said.

But she doesn’t know whether that happened because most of the women were left behind. She is now desperate for the remaining hostages to return home, but added: “Having experienced how horrendous the fighting and bombardment was, I can’t really understand how you can both have that and care for the captives that are there.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/03/we-were-constantly-in-terror-israeli-hostage-tells-of-captivity-in-gaza

It isn't really a shock anymore, though, is it, although it certainly should be. This is exactly what we have come to expect of the fate of women and girls captured by extremists of this culture (not religion).
I'm not surprised either that tensions towards Israel have increased in the region. Israel's appalling retaliatory flattening of Gaza has put the fate of many, many more Israeli women at risk if tensions escalate.

Some of the posts on here are shockingly overt in their hatred, but the thing I find harder to swallow is that many of the well known posters don't challenge or condemn the post, rather they'll find ways to support the offensive statement by talking of ' context ' or question the legitimacy of the source or simply remain silent. The comment you're referring to made me gasp aloud in its wickedness.

If you do stick your head above the parapet, the pile on inevitably follows with people literally being hounded off the board. It takes a brave soul to participate on here nowadays if you don't agree with the status quo that's been established. I do hope you choose not to leave -there's still some of us with more moderate, tempered views of the situation who agree with you, even if our agreement is often only expressed with the ' thank you'button because we're too fearful of speaking out. I think that's true of wider society actually - much is made of the hundreds of thousands marching at the protests as if they reflect the views of the entire nation, but there are many more millions who have a very different take on the conflict.

I agree with you with hope for a negotiated ceasefire and for peace to follow.

Thank you to the people who have liked my comment. I find myself feeling disgust and the need like lots of other mn's to leave these threads and hide them. That particular disgusting comment made me realise that you cannot chat with that type of view.

I hope peace comes to the region. A ceasefire and negotiations so people can live in peace.

It's hot nothing at all to do with it. The poster just hates Jewish people.

Do they value women so low that they were surprised by the retaliation.

Is there a particular reason you doubt a woman telling of her rape?

What made you think it's not 'legit'

Can you not bring yourself to believe someone holding a kidnapped woman might rape her? I mean quite happy to hold a kidnapped woman against her wishes but you don't think the rape happened? Why?

Rape is an appalling crime yet you don't think this rape happened. Why?

"But this is totally acceptable because a handful of people got raped at the hands of Hamas...."

What a disgusting thing to say. I'm not surprised its said on here though going by the hatred of Jewish people that rape of Jewish women might be described thus on mn.

NYT isn't my first port of call, as I'm not American. When I posted that comment it hadn't made any headlines of a number of news outlets I use.

If there was anything pleasant in Soussana's account it was Mohammed admitting that he was bad and begging Soussana not to tell Israel what he had done. Good to hear he is afraid.
Well, Mohammed, I expect the IDF read the newspapers and are known to be persistent in responding to barbaric acts against Jews.

Pray, do tell what you think that - by your own standards - people who not once but repeatedly voted for Netanyahu and, most recently, also for literal fascists like Smotrich and the convicted terrorist supporter Ben-Gvir deserve?!

By the way, quite apart from the fact that the election you complain about was in 2006 ... the Palestinian electoral system at the time was sort of similar to ours, a.k.a. "perfectly possible to end up with a lot more seats than your actual share of the vote" - which is precisely what happened!

Now, pray, do tell because of whom out of our elected leaders of recent years you are happy to be killed?

Personally, I'm going to have to go for that cabbage that outlasted Truss. While not technically elected, if I'm going to take "collective punishment", I'll pick the "maximally absurd" option so that I can at least laugh about my dire fate!

The Times of Israel reported this earlier. It also gives account of how horribly Soussana was beaten by a subsequent group of guards she was moved to after the one who sexually abused her.

There is no question it all happened, what she relates is quite clearly beyond making up. She told this publicly to try to help the remaining hostages be remembered and the urgency of their plight be acted upon. How brave she is to have done this.

Released hostage Amit Soussana recounts sexual assault at hands of Hamas captor | The Times of Israel

https://www.timesofisrael.com/released-hostage-amit-soussana-reveals-she-was-sexually-assaulted-by-hamas-captor/

After he sexually assaulted her, Soussana said the guard told her, “I’m bad, I’m bad, please don’t tell Israel,” as if to show remorse.

She rejected initial offers of food, but eventually relented in order to appease her abusive captor.

“You can’t stand looking at him — but you have to: He’s the one who’s protecting you, he’s your guard,” Soussana stated. “You’re there with him and you know that every moment it can happen again. You’re completely dependent on him.”

Who can imagine being so trapped? It is a nightmare.

@dubsie Israel was created by us for the Jewish people, they promised Palestine to the Jews in exchange for support for war. Clearly this was wrong but that's history for you and you can't change that fact. The question is how you move forward and create a peaceful settlement.

the British intended to partition Palestine into two states Jewish and Arab.
The plan was adopted and recommended by the United Nations.
However, like the partition of India, neither side was happy and civil war broke out.

Whilst your points are good I find your flippant remark about a handful of people being raped by Hamas very insensitive and frankly quite distasteful.

The first post. Not your first post.

Basically a sick pervert.

Moved from home to home so difficult to rescue.

I wonder about the female hostages who haven't been released and if any of them are pregnant by now? It's absolutely horrendous to think about.

The first post in this thread denied it. And your now deleted post was antisemitic.