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Anyone seen the video where the police officer says a swastika is not anti-Semitic at a pro Palestine March?

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EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 31/03/2024 15:29

I know there are lots of pro-Palestine supporters in this area of the board. If not anti-Semitic then what else is it standing for in this context? Apparently it was drawn on some protestors banners.

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lisalisa · 04/04/2024 21:28

Really didn’t want to get too involved in these threads as they lead to stress and discomfort but something @LemonyTicket said resonated with me and I had to add my voice .
i love England ; we’ve been here since 1850s which is quite early for Jewish people who generally arrived between 50-70 years later . My family are very British and have been born , educated , paid taxes and worked all their lives and passed away and been buried here .
But we are making tentative plans to leave . Never thought I’d see the day but it’s too dangerous and uncomfortable to stay in England and especially for our next generation .
During the last 6 months our local supermarket was visited by a knife man looking to kill , my daughters netball game in the park was broken up by a group of shouting girls , my elder daughter was physically attacked and is now terrified to walk the streets after dark …… All anti semitic incidents .

Kendodd · 04/04/2024 21:17

Scirocco · 04/04/2024 21:06

@Kendodd I didn't see what specific list you posted, but here's one I found quickly. It's from January though.

https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2024/israel-war-on-gaza-10000-children-killed/

Thank you!

Kendodd · 04/04/2024 21:16

LemonyTicket · 04/04/2024 20:52

I reported you for a post saying "fuck off with your antisemitism claims". Don't write disgusting posts if you don't want them deleted :)

And you just keep up with the hand waving dismissal of thousands of children being killed.

Kendodd · 04/04/2024 21:12

LemonyTicket · 04/04/2024 20:56

People are always dying somewhere. It does not make racism acceptable. Does it?

No, racism or antisemitism are never OK. We agree on that.
I also think it's not OK to dismiss the killing of thousands of children with hand waving 'people are always dying somewhere' this is were we differ.
And as for getting their names deleted. Wow!

Kendodd · 04/04/2024 21:09

Scirocco · 04/04/2024 20:25

Just as the names of the innocent people killed, taken hostage and injured on 7/10 should not be erased, nor should the names of the innocent people being killed and injured in Gaza, or the West Bank, for that matter.

I agree.
I had already posted a list of the people killed by Hamas on on October 7th.

LemonyTicket · 04/04/2024 20:56

Scirocco · 04/04/2024 20:12

"People, sadly, are always dying somewhere" really does demonstrate a real depth of compassion for fellow human beings, doesn't it?

People are always dying somewhere. It does not make racism acceptable. Does it?

LemonyTicket · 04/04/2024 20:55

Scirocco · 04/04/2024 20:21

Wow. That's a special kind of heartless for someone to do that.

His /her post responded to a post from me discussing antisemitism (on a thread about antisemitism!) with "fuck off with your antisemitism claims".

I find it interesting that you feel that's appropriate. I find it more interesting that you think it's appropriate to insult the victim for asking it to be removed.

Why is that exactly?

LemonyTicket · 04/04/2024 20:52

Kendodd · 04/04/2024 20:19

Can't believe you got MN to delete a list of the names of the children killed in Gaza

I reported you for a post saying "fuck off with your antisemitism claims". Don't write disgusting posts if you don't want them deleted :)

Scirocco · 04/04/2024 20:25

Kendodd · 04/04/2024 20:22

Shocking isn't it.
And shame on MN for doing it.

Just as the names of the innocent people killed, taken hostage and injured on 7/10 should not be erased, nor should the names of the innocent people being killed and injured in Gaza, or the West Bank, for that matter.

Kendodd · 04/04/2024 20:24

Scirocco · 04/04/2024 20:21

Wow. That's a special kind of heartless for someone to do that.

Shows just how much those children mattered to some people doesn't it.

Scirocco · 04/04/2024 20:23

Kendodd · 04/04/2024 20:21

Of course a swastika isn't ok, nowhere have I said it is, quite the opposite. And shame on you deleting that list of names.

Maybe a misquote?

Kendodd · 04/04/2024 20:22

Scirocco · 04/04/2024 20:21

Wow. That's a special kind of heartless for someone to do that.

Shocking isn't it.
And shame on MN for doing it.

Kendodd · 04/04/2024 20:21

Scirocco · 04/04/2024 20:12

"People, sadly, are always dying somewhere" really does demonstrate a real depth of compassion for fellow human beings, doesn't it?

Of course a swastika isn't ok, nowhere have I said it is, quite the opposite. And shame on you deleting that list of names.

Scirocco · 04/04/2024 20:21

Kendodd · 04/04/2024 20:19

Can't believe you got MN to delete a list of the names of the children killed in Gaza

Wow. That's a special kind of heartless for someone to do that.

Kendodd · 04/04/2024 20:19

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Can't believe you got MN to delete a list of the names of the children killed in Gaza

Scirocco · 04/04/2024 20:12

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"People, sadly, are always dying somewhere" really does demonstrate a real depth of compassion for fellow human beings, doesn't it?

LemonyTicket · 04/04/2024 20:06

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Kendodd · 04/04/2024 20:02

@LemonyTicket

Kendodd · 04/04/2024 19:57

That was @LeLemonyTicket

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LemonyTicket · 04/04/2024 19:19

DeepBiscuit · 03/04/2024 20:22

People can talk about a bad thing just because something else is worse. Why is it thay whenever anyone expresses concern about anti-Semitism they're. et with "how dare you worry about that when people in Gaza are dying".

It's so sad to watch, because no other minorities would be treated this way in Britain in 2024, but people are very angered by even the word "antisemitism". I think because they are swept up in a wave of it and do not want to have a mirror held up to look into.

People, sadly, are always dying somewhere. Black people would not be told to shut up about Klan rallies in London because people are being murdered in Sudan. It's very weird, and infuriating, and moreover quite heartbreaking.

I can't see my family staying in the UK, and we are third generation refugees. People are simply lost in this. They have become what I thought we would never see again. A policeman who can't say a Swastika is antisemitic!

Prunesqualler · 04/04/2024 17:36

Dibilnik · 04/04/2024 12:32

No, because there is a difference between quoting a post as an example of something you're trying to explain, and directly attacking an individual.

I have apologised more than once to @Kendodd for any upset caused and I have done my best to explain the views I was trying to express.

Besides, I know how much you all enjoy attacking me, so I don't want to spoil that for you.

Already responded to this issue earlier with Kendodds better idea of just leaving it.

See above. So my post is out of date really

Dibilnik · 04/04/2024 12:32

Prunesqualler · 04/04/2024 10:32

Will you be taking down the accusation then.
I haven’t seen it removed.
You can ask MNHQ to take it down….there was nothing antisemitic about it.

Its. Wrong to make such upsetting accusations against someone, it’s a personal attack.
I hate it when people attack others to shut down conversations and these threads would be so much more informative if that stopped

No, because there is a difference between quoting a post as an example of something you're trying to explain, and directly attacking an individual.

I have apologised more than once to @Kendodd for any upset caused and I have done my best to explain the views I was trying to express.

Besides, I know how much you all enjoy attacking me, so I don't want to spoil that for you.

Scirocco · 04/04/2024 11:53

@Kendodd , that's a good point.