Anyone seen the video where the police officer says a swastika is not anti-Semitic at a pro Palestine March?

Come on. You really think it's even remotely likely that a Swastika at an Anti-Israel march was a Buddhist Manji?

This is so ludicrous it's almost funny.

The anti-Semitism on this board could not be more thinly veiled. Make a bit more of an effort, please.

Firstly, the police are clearly not doing their jobs.

Secondly, the protest organisers should also have a responsibility to make it clear what isn't and isn't acceptable at their marches, as they have done very well at the Marches against Anti-Semitism. If this has become impossible to manage because the march has become uncontrollably overrun with anti-Semites, they should have the decency to cancel the marches.

I've not seen any pictures on the news of the offending item so for all we know it was a Buddhist manji. If it had "death to all Jews" written across it then the person should have been arrested and rightly so, but if it was a manji the officer was right about context. It's a dangerous path to try and police symbols when for example such things as The Saint George's have both negative and positive associations.

You don't think that that is what the police are for? I honestly can't believe that you would think people shouldn't be able to protest about their government aiding and abetting war crimes, that people should put up and shut up about their government helping to kill people against international law rather than expecting the police to do their jobs. This is what I mean about the UK and what they 'condemn' being so confusing. War crimes = fine, protesting = not fine, expecting the police to do their jobs = not fine.

It ends where British Jews are being terrorised and abused.

I went to a Solidarity with Jews march the other day. There was one known Islamophobic personality there and the event organisers immediately made him leave and would not allow him to march with them.

Are the peaceful Pro-Palestine marchers doing the same? Are they calling the police on protesters marching alongside them displaying anti-semitic tropes? Are they making it clear what type of slogans and symbols will not be tolerated at their marches?

I think if your government is aiding and abetting war crimes as today's reports would suggest people absolutely should be out on the streets. Imagine a world where your government is in breach of International Law as it is looks like the UK government is and nobody could protest about it? Where does that end? People should have a right to hold their government accountable, especially on something as serious as this.

Except the fact that many of these "compassionate" pro-Palestine supporters are knowingly and continuously marching alongside blatant anti-Semites...

I just can't believe these protests are still being allowed. Jewish people are afraid to be in Central London right now. People are parading anti semitic symbols through the streets of our cities day after day, and wilfully obtuse police officers are wittering away about "context".

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I know. I understood. Just like these marches.
It doesn't make it acceptable.
They just sound very ignorant and bigoted.

Just to be clear, the people holding swastika signs weren't describing themselves as Nazis, they were calling others that. They had signs like EU = swastika or I saw some of an EU flag with a swastika overlayed. Some looked just home made cardboard, others looked professionally made.

Am pleased they at least seem to be arresting the most extreme.
Sadly it's what happens next that's the issue....

Dreadful. They should have been arrested.

@Anywherebuthere and to help with wiping out Palestinians, the UK continues to provide arms despite apparent legal advice that this conflict is in breach of international law, and the US has just approved billions of dollars worth of arms.

I saw a few people with swastika banners on a demonstration in about 2019. It was at an anti brexit march and the swastikas were held by people in a small pro brexit counter demonstration. They were claiming the EU were Nazis and so the anti brexit marchers were Nazi supporters.

I think OP’s post reads as a rhetorical question- ‘is there ever a context where that symbol could be ok on a Palestinian march, can pro Palestinians on MN think of a context?’
If even pro Palestinians can’t think it acceptable, then why couldn’t the Met do so?

I don’t think she was accusing pro Palestinians on here of being Nazi sympathisers.

@Auvergne63
Yes. I am. Its abhorrent.

If there was no swastika then why was she arrested?

Aaah… after reading the mets reply it’s quite clear that woman was just a goady troublemaker herself. There was probably never a swastika.

Was this directed at me because I was the one who said the police would have to be asked? I genuinely didn't know I was supposed to 'condemn' it. I'm not British, I don't live in the UK and I find your culture of 'condemning' really confusing. I don't know when 'condemning' is needed and when it isn't.

For instance I posted on a thread that said that a source in the Tory party has said that government lawyers have said that Israel are breaking international laws and that the UK is aiding and abetting war crimes. Hardly anyone commented on that news, there is no 'condemning' there so obviously that doesn't fall under the banner of things that need to be 'condemned'. In my country that would be huge news, massive and everyone would be condemning but not in the UK and that's fair enough, you do you. But unless the poster specifies that they expect their posts to be 'condenmed' I'm lost. I have no idea what's condemn worthy and what isn't. There are so many things i think are condemn worthy and nobody says anything, so generally I just take what the OP says and answer it. The OP herself didn't 'condemn' it.

Now that I know that this is something mumsnet has decided everyone should 'condemn' rather than just answer the OP, I will say I condemn the use of a swastika on a banner at any protest. It shouldn't happen anywhere.

Did I say that it was acceptable? Did I say I was parading with one. Never, ever assume anything because 99% of the time you will be wrong.
Are you as vociferous about the legality of selling Nazi artifacts in the UK? I find this odious and an insult to the millions of people who suffered, my family included, under the Nazi regime?

It's almost as if they prefer to go for the low hanging fruit..

Which is appalling frankly.

Understandable, but appalling. Especially when I clearly recall the Met response to the Sarah Everard memorial.