Reports of sexual violence against Palestinian women

Who knows what to believe about what any more.

Hamas have admitted that these reports were falsified.

Lots of dog whistle "Israeli/ Jewish rape culture" on this thread.

This thread is based on an article that has since been retracted since made up.

https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/al-jazeera-deletes-fake-story-about-idf-rapes-in-gaza-hospital-j1uquwad

@pickledandpuzzled

You were asking if it happened or not. This is the Al Jazerra story. It retracted the original story.

https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/al-jazeera-deletes-fake-story-about-idf-rapes-in-gaza-hospital-j1uquwad

The woman admitted the story was made up about the rapes at the hospital:

"Al Jazeera columnist and former director Yasser Abuhilalah tweeted: “It was revealed through Hamas investigations that the story of the rape of women in Al-Shifa Hospital was fabricated…

“The woman who spoke about rape justified her exaggeration and incorrect talk by saying that the goal was to arouse the nation’s fervor and brotherhood.”

He added: “As if more than 30,000 martyrs, 90,000 wounded, about a million displaced people, and comprehensive destruction were not enough!”

Either they lied about it happening or they're lying about it not happening. Why would they lie about it not happening? I can't think of a reason. Maybe you have some suggestions.

So, at this point you believe Hamas? Fascinating!

Hamas has admitted that these stories were made up

The rapists were 18/19 so would be doing their military service. It was the hero’s welcome that was so disturbing.

I was replying to the post I was quoting.

Re: Israeli alleged gang rape in Cyprus, I have just seen there have been two recent cases, the one I alluded to where the girl was imprisoned, the men released, which was in 2019; and another last September.

This is straying from the thread, except my original post had been about my shock at the validation.

I thought you were replying to what I had written here, part of which was about an Israeli gang rape in Cyprus. I did not know any of them were IDF or say any were - I don’t know either way. My point was clear in the context of my post :
ScrollingLeaves · Today 11:13

I think it's a bit strange that some posters will tell you they do not believe a word that Hamas says but will believe what Hamas are saying now about the rape allegations maybe because it would paint the IDF in a better light.

I'm not saying that the news isn't fake but it just seems odd how some pick and choose what they want to believe about Hamas.

I don't support Hamas btw.

The point you were making?

The poster I was replying with seemed to imply it was Israel or the IDF who had something to do with them. Yes their families gave them a heroes welcome and that's disgusting. But not what the PP was referring to.

It was Cyprus who released them, but when they arrived back at the airport in Israel, there were people waiting, cheering them, giving them a heros’ welcome.

The point I was making was that they got huge validation. Whether or not they were guilty, they’d at the very least behaved abhorrently and disgracefully. Their return was no doubt a welcome relief for their parents and friends but a little gravity was owed.

So has it happened or not?

I mean, disgusting and so much worse given the original provocation.

That was a horrible case, but it was Cyprus who released the men and charged the woman, not Israel. And the youngest perpetrator was fifteen so I don't see how he could have been in the IDF.

Sorry Cyprus!

There was a group of IDF young men who raped a British girl on holiday in Greece a while ago. They all went back to Israel and the girl was accused of making false accusations. It was shocking, none of them were punished and for all we know these same individuals could now be there raping again just because they can - even if it isn’t the same ones, then they all would’ve seen that rape is easy to get away with and that the community doesn’t believe women.

Just seen this

www.thejc.com/news/israel/al-jazeera-deletes-fake-story-about-idf-rapes-in-gaza-hospital-j1uquwad

It's awful. You'd think after the appalling scenes on Oct 7th the IDF would refrain from doing this, but they've gone down exactly the same path as Hamas.

Two sets of terrorists separated by a different flag. There's no excuse for this. None.

There's just so much that is coming out right now that's happened in the past few months so God only knows what's going to emerge in another few more months. And that's if it does as there's barely anyone, if not, no one to report and document these heinous crimes. What's more, nothing is being done to stop it.

When they go home they won’t be able to forget who they were when they were in Gaza, I wish their shame weighs them down for the rest of their lives

Yes, it will cost them their souls. Imagine being the mother of an 18 year old getting incited to become a coward and a rapist by peer pressure in the ‘Most Moral Army’.

Or maybe a lot of the parents are like the parents of the Israeli gang rapers on holiday in Cyprus , who cheered their darling entitled boys home when they arrived back in Israel, having escaped conviction by the Cyprus court for what they’d done, while the raped girl was put in prison instead.