The 12 year old Palestinian child shot dead on the West Bank

I did see it. I couldn't remember it word for word when I circled back round to post but I saw it.

Can you not see that this "she called my team smelly so I made a point by calling her team smelly" nonsense is completely inappropriate when you're slinging around accusations that racism is the "pure" motivation for anyone in this deadly situation?

If you had seen the previous poster's inane, hateful anti-Palestinian comment you would understand.

You've totally missed my point.

Which was what? To say that the killing of the 12 year old was "pure racism" just to score a point?

Surely not holding the IDF to the standards of international law would be anti-Semitic as it would be suggesting they are incapable of the same ethical standards of other countries?

You've totally missed my point.

Thank you. I cannot bear it that Israelis should even be there with guns, towers, and powers to shoot and arrest when it is not their own territory.

Sorry. Lost track of my own strand there but I was trying to make two separate points about how it really isn't all a matter of hate crime as well as why calling it "pure" bigotry is unhelpful. Two connected points.

I shouldn't post between working.

...which is why I started my remarks by saying I don't think either side is pure anything.

But it's also true. It's a complicated geopolitical shitstorm with a grisly religious backstory. It's militarised. Nobody is acting from pure racism or pure bigotry or pure anything else in a situation like that and it's really dangerous to be so reductive. We all want things to improve so we need to stop the over simplification.

I was quoting the previous poster (now rightfully deleted for hate speech) who was saying condemning the soldiers, who were being "baited" by children, was "pure antisemitism". I turned their phrasing into my comment.

Yea I saw the comment and realised it was a retaliatory rhetorical something... but where does that get us?

She says whatever position or comment is "pure" anti semitism, you say the shooting was "pure racism" towards Palestinians. Neither can possibly be true. So what does saying it achieve? It's just so much more petrol thrown on the flames from two directions.

the logic is so warped.

I was quoting the previous poster (now rightfully deleted for hate speech) who was saying condemning the soldiers, who were being "baited" by children, was "pure antisemitism". I turned their phrasing into my comment.

I realise their comment was deleted now so you can't see the context.

If posters want to label anyone who denounces shooting a child antisemitic, let them. I have come to the conclusion that criticising the IDF/Israeli makes you automatically antisemitic; no matter what.

Please would someone explain why Israelis are even there in their shooting tower?

Was this the West Bank or the East Jerusalem?

It’s just horrible. That’s just it, it is an occupation. This isn’t a war as the Palestinians have no legitimate side to fight as in a 2 sided war.

And shooting a child, after assuming they are a terrorist on the basis they’re Palestinian is acceptable racism apparently

It was day before yesterday and said by a male reporter in East Jerusalem reporting on the shooting of Rami.

After the boy died in hospital, the IDF seized his body and are refusing to give it to the family so they can do the funeral rites for him.
https://www.livetube.tv/news/video-rami-al-halhulis-father-says-israeli-forces-are-imposing-restrictions-on-return-of-body

Thanks. Maybe it can be found on their twitter page. Can you remember the approximate date? It will help with the search.

Surely there's only so long you can keep playing the antisemitism card.

People are condemning the Israeli government not all Jewish people.

As for what do we expect the IDF to do, maybe not kill children for a start?

It's pure anti-Palestinian racism

I don't think it's "pure" anything. It's young soldiers, asked to police a tinderbox that shouldn't exist in the first place, and the psychological aspects of that are complicated. The whole thing needs solving.

I wouldn't want my children living in the WB, and I wouldn't want them patrolling it in an IDF unit, either.

The best hope is some kind of NI style peace process.

This with bells, whistles and flashing lights on it.

Disagree with the IDF murdering children? Antisemitic! No other explanation for it.