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Conflict in the Middle East

The Gaza you don’t see

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Homeeducation1 · 05/03/2024 08:39

A thread to see how Gazans are coping in a war situation. Most of the links have been posted on TikTok within the last two weeks.

Price of a packet of macaroni in Rafah, south Gaza Strip - 13 shekels ($3.60).
Posted by Gaza journalist Ahmed Hisham on his Instagram account, 12 hours ago.
https://twitter.com/imshin/status/1764919176806711409

https://twitter.com/imshin/status/1764919176806711409

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Efacsen · 05/03/2024 10:21

Not sure why this is newsworthy/threadworthy

The sale of stolen humanitarian aid on the black market always occurs in these situations - it's a sign that insufficient food is being made available to the population

Also before Israel drastically reduced the amount of humanitarian aid about a month ago NGOs were facilitating the delivery of 10 trucks/day of food for commercial purposes - for 2 reasons - to keep the markets 'alive' and secondly to provide food for a few people with money so that they didn't become aid-dependent

The OPs attitude is peculiar

Scirocco · 05/03/2024 10:20

You know, I was considering home education for DC but this thread has put me off a bit.

Homeeducation1 · 05/03/2024 10:19

@@misssunshine4040 The point of the thread is, I had no idea aid was being sold to the extent it is. I thought others might find that interesting and to see there is a primary source of information coming from the Gazan people themselves.
Obviously everyone (by the comments on this thread) already knew this information.

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MissyB1 · 05/03/2024 10:19

This is a bloody weird thread. Poor attempt at gaslighting OP.

ssd · 05/03/2024 10:17

@Homeeducation1 , your motive in posting these links is plain to see. Life in Gaza looks expensive but not all that bad. Why are they complaining, eh?
And telling people who point out how your links are lacking any credibility, just to leave the thread, won't work no matter how many times you tell them.

Scirocco · 05/03/2024 10:17

Short clips of people buying and selling food (which is kind of necessary for people to eat) with no wider context, being presented as 'The Gaza You Don't See' and with accusations of 'Gaza is conning us' is disinformation. It is attempting to manipulate people's perceptions of what is happening by taking some snippets of less-than-horrific but still not good moments in people's lives, other footage that doesn't have evidence of having actually been contemporaneous but is presented as contemporaneous, and using it to discourage compassion and support for innocent people struggling to survive, suggesting a 'con', and as an added bonus, social media algorithms mean people clicking on the links and viewing the content then get exposed to increasingly biased content.

IClaudine · 05/03/2024 10:13

Homeeducation1 · 05/03/2024 10:02

@IClaudine because it is a source of the original Gazan accounts on instagram and TikTok. Please just hide the thread if you don’t want to see it. It seems like you just want a fight.

If you want to be able to post and not be challenged you are on the wrong site!

IClaudine · 05/03/2024 10:12

Scirocco · 05/03/2024 10:02

I'm really disappointed that a thread sharing disinformation like this is allowed to remain. And I'm really disappointed that the OP is just continuing to post links despite people pointing out that this is a questionable source at best.

Agreed.

misssunshine4040 · 05/03/2024 10:11

What's the point in the thread? What are you trying to accomplish ?

I think most people are well aware that selling aid supplies will happen in conflict zones where people are on survival mode and thinking only of themselves.

People are not saints no matter their background

Homeeducation1 · 05/03/2024 10:07

@Scirocco This is not disinformation, not when you can click onto all the original instagram and TikTok accounts posted by Gazans living in Gaza at this present time. If you do not want to see it please feel free to hide the thread.

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Scirocco · 05/03/2024 10:06

Homeeducation1 · 05/03/2024 10:02

@IClaudine because it is a source of the original Gazan accounts on instagram and TikTok. Please just hide the thread if you don’t want to see it. It seems like you just want a fight.

It's not just about not wanting to see it. Just hiding things and not challenging them is how disinformation spreads. And with disinformation comes manipulation of people's views of important things like giving food to starving people and seeking an end to the dehumanisation, oppression and killing of innocent people.

ColleenDonaghy · 05/03/2024 10:04

I'm not going to click on dodgy TikToks, but I think it's well known that in aid situations some resources will end in the hands of those who will use them for profit. Based on the posts on this thread, I'm not hearing anything unexpected.

Homeeducation1 · 05/03/2024 10:02

@IClaudine because it is a source of the original Gazan accounts on instagram and TikTok. Please just hide the thread if you don’t want to see it. It seems like you just want a fight.

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Scirocco · 05/03/2024 10:02

I'm really disappointed that a thread sharing disinformation like this is allowed to remain. And I'm really disappointed that the OP is just continuing to post links despite people pointing out that this is a questionable source at best.

Homeeducation1 · 05/03/2024 09:59

Young boy selling semolina cakes in Gaza is overpaid by person purchasing. He has am infectious smile.

https://www.tiktok.com/@anoszeno/video/7339460683827842312?_r=1&_t=8kGdgiB9Oyn

TikTok - Make Your Day

https://www.tiktok.com/@anoszeno/video/7339460683827842312?_r=1&_t=8kGdgiB9Oyn

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AliceA2021 · 05/03/2024 09:53

I don't doubt that there will be men who quite happily grab thd aid and then sell onto others. Children have starved to death whilst men grab aid to sell. Ots awful.

IClaudine · 05/03/2024 09:47

Homeeducation1 why did you choose to link to an iffy Twitter account rather than to the primary source?

Homeeducation1 · 05/03/2024 09:42

The X account obviously is pro Israeli. Perhaps you should click on the link to the TikTok or instagram account and view the primary resource?

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Homeeducation1 · 05/03/2024 09:40

Anwar selling pittas in a street in Gaza. Posted 1 week ago.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3qOUDHN2HM/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3qOUDHN2HM/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

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Parkingt111 · 05/03/2024 09:40

BelleHathor · 05/03/2024 09:34

I just checked my Twitter and "followers you know" of the account, she is followed by the biggest pro Israeli accounts including Jordan "Give them hell, Netanyahu" Peterson. So this Twitter account is obviously a propaganda/Hasbara account designed to dehumanise Palestinians and infer that they're "selling food" and obviously not being starved. It's sick.

Ah that would make sense, there's also lots of pictures of life before the war with captions like 'life in a concentration camp/open air prison' obviously being sarcastic.

BelleHathor · 05/03/2024 09:34

Parkingt111 · 05/03/2024 09:13

I just had a look at it and thought the same thing. Not only biased but quite hateful towards the Gazans

I just checked my Twitter and "followers you know" of the account, she is followed by the biggest pro Israeli accounts including Jordan "Give them hell, Netanyahu" Peterson. So this Twitter account is obviously a propaganda/Hasbara account designed to dehumanise Palestinians and infer that they're "selling food" and obviously not being starved. It's sick.

Homeeducation1 · 05/03/2024 09:23

@Scirocco Sorry for your loss. Every life on both sides is precious.

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IClaudine · 05/03/2024 09:20

Scirocco · 05/03/2024 09:19

Maybe I should text my friends and let them know to stop being dead so they can go eat burgers.

I'm so sorry.

Homeeducation1 · 05/03/2024 09:19

@IClaudine What is a neutral source nowadays?
I was more interested at Gazans TikTok videos. Primary source of information.
You can literally go onto TikTok and follow Gazan posting about their lives.

Thanks. I first joined mumsnet 18 years ago.

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Scirocco · 05/03/2024 09:19

IClaudine · 05/03/2024 09:15

Her whole angle seems to be that everything is fine and dandy in Gaza.

Maybe I should text my friends and let them know to stop being dead so they can go eat burgers.

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