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IDF fixation with looting Palestinian women’s underwear

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Prrambulate · 04/03/2024 19:48

Can someone explain this disturbing phenomenon?

IDF fixation with looting Palestinian women’s underwear
IDF fixation with looting Palestinian women’s underwear
IDF fixation with looting Palestinian women’s underwear
IDF fixation with looting Palestinian women’s underwear
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Anxiulyyy · 07/03/2024 15:05

The rape stories that were posted by the NYT have been discredited and the writer has been put under investigation.

Fussandmisery · 07/03/2024 15:04

TwigletsAndRadishes · 07/03/2024 14:59

Do you know the whereabouts of the women whose knickers have been nicked by the idf??

theyre probably

  1. Arrested (illegally)
  2. Displaced in minimum conditions
  3. Killed

Okay, so would you rather be a Palestinian woman who has been arrested illegally, a Palestinian woman who is displaced and very scared and stressed, but alive and unraped? Or if you had to be dead would you rather be dead because of mortar fire or dead because you were gang raped, stabbed in the vagina for a laugh, then shot?

Or are you going to keep asking me questions rather than answer mine?

I think most people wouldn’t want to be either (particularly given the Palestinian woman is not necessarily going to emerge unraped)

EasterIssland · 07/03/2024 15:03

TwigletsAndRadishes · 07/03/2024 14:59

Do you know the whereabouts of the women whose knickers have been nicked by the idf??

theyre probably

  1. Arrested (illegally)
  2. Displaced in minimum conditions
  3. Killed

Okay, so would you rather be a Palestinian woman who has been arrested illegally, a Palestinian woman who is displaced and very scared and stressed, but alive and unraped? Or if you had to be dead would you rather be dead because of mortar fire or dead because you were gang raped, stabbed in the vagina for a laugh, then shot?

Or are you going to keep asking me questions rather than answer mine?

Are you aware about the tortures the women have gone through during the detention?
do you think those that are displaced are just scared and stressed ? Probably they’re a bit more than that.

dead … are there different levels of being killed which one gives you more points than another one ?

not sure you realise but … the 4 options (my 3 and yours) aren’t ideal at all. They shouldn’t have happened. And they’re as bad as each other

seems like you’re normalising and accepting my 3 options when they’re horrible things and no woman should go through

TwigletsAndRadishes · 07/03/2024 14:59

Do you know the whereabouts of the women whose knickers have been nicked by the idf??

theyre probably

  1. Arrested (illegally)
  2. Displaced in minimum conditions
  3. Killed

Okay, so would you rather be a Palestinian woman who has been arrested illegally, a Palestinian woman who is displaced and very scared and stressed, but alive and unraped? Or if you had to be dead would you rather be dead because of mortar fire or dead because you were gang raped, stabbed in the vagina for a laugh, then shot?

Or are you going to keep asking me questions rather than answer mine?

ConnieCounter · 07/03/2024 14:56

TwigletsAndRadishes · 07/03/2024 14:45

Presumably because of what Hamas did to Jewish women last October.

Exactly. As a comparison, I really can't get very worked up about Israeli soldiers larking about in a Palestinian woman's bra.

Yeah, but it’s not Hamas underwear, is it? It belongs to innocent Palestinian women who Israel has decided are going to pay the price, along with all the other innocent civilians.

And the women who were stripped, raped, shot and stabbed in the vagina, murdered, then paraded through the streets naked on the back of trucks, to the delight of baying Palestinian mobs were just innocent Israeli women, whom Hamas had decided should pay a price. The babies who had their throats cut were just innocent babies whom Hamas decided should pay a price.

Given the choice, would you rather be one of the Israeli woman raped and killed by Hamas on 7/10, or one of the Palestinian women having her underwear nicked by the IDF?

It may be reasonable to consider it "larking about" if the IDF hadn't killed 10,000 women in the last 5 months. And 12,000 of their children.

You left that bit out.

EasterIssland · 07/03/2024 14:51

TwigletsAndRadishes · 07/03/2024 14:45

Presumably because of what Hamas did to Jewish women last October.

Exactly. As a comparison, I really can't get very worked up about Israeli soldiers larking about in a Palestinian woman's bra.

Yeah, but it’s not Hamas underwear, is it? It belongs to innocent Palestinian women who Israel has decided are going to pay the price, along with all the other innocent civilians.

And the women who were stripped, raped, shot and stabbed in the vagina, murdered, then paraded through the streets naked on the back of trucks, to the delight of baying Palestinian mobs were just innocent Israeli women, whom Hamas had decided should pay a price. The babies who had their throats cut were just innocent babies whom Hamas decided should pay a price.

Given the choice, would you rather be one of the Israeli woman raped and killed by Hamas on 7/10, or one of the Palestinian women having her underwear nicked by the IDF?

Do you know the whereabouts of the women whose knickers have been nicked by the idf??

theyre probably

  1. Arrested (illegally)
  2. Displaced in minimum conditions
  3. Killed

don’t think any of the options is desirable to be honest

TwigletsAndRadishes · 07/03/2024 14:45

Presumably because of what Hamas did to Jewish women last October.

Exactly. As a comparison, I really can't get very worked up about Israeli soldiers larking about in a Palestinian woman's bra.

Yeah, but it’s not Hamas underwear, is it? It belongs to innocent Palestinian women who Israel has decided are going to pay the price, along with all the other innocent civilians.

And the women who were stripped, raped, shot and stabbed in the vagina, murdered, then paraded through the streets naked on the back of trucks, to the delight of baying Palestinian mobs were just innocent Israeli women, whom Hamas had decided should pay a price. The babies who had their throats cut were just innocent babies whom Hamas decided should pay a price.

Given the choice, would you rather be one of the Israeli woman raped and killed by Hamas on 7/10, or one of the Palestinian women having her underwear nicked by the IDF?

Scirocco · 07/03/2024 14:25

One side effect of these posts is that they make the world less safe for all Muslim women, through popularising and normalising sexual harassment of us. These posts are frequently referenced in online and in-person sexual harassment of Muslim women.

Fussandmisery · 06/03/2024 23:12

Lorelaigilmore88 · 06/03/2024 20:27

Yes the same Palestinian women and civilians who laughed and cheered in the streets in Gaza when Hamas returned with raped and brutalised Jewish women in the backs of trucks.
After what Hamas did to women on October 7th you cant be surprised that the IDF aren't particularly inclined to treat Palestinian women with any respect.
There aren't actually any Palestinian women in any of those photos so looting their underwear is pretty irrelevant in the grander scale of what's going on there.

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ConnieCounter · 06/03/2024 21:24

Lorelaigilmore88 · 06/03/2024 20:27

Yes the same Palestinian women and civilians who laughed and cheered in the streets in Gaza when Hamas returned with raped and brutalised Jewish women in the backs of trucks.
After what Hamas did to women on October 7th you cant be surprised that the IDF aren't particularly inclined to treat Palestinian women with any respect.
There aren't actually any Palestinian women in any of those photos so looting their underwear is pretty irrelevant in the grander scale of what's going on there.

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What's wrong with you?

Nopoppinginplease · 06/03/2024 21:04

Yes the same Palestinian women and civilians who laughed and cheered in the streets in Gaza when Hamas returned with raped and brutalised Jewish women in the backs of trucks.
After what Hamas did to women on October 7th you cant be surprised that the IDF aren't particularly inclined to treat Palestinian women with any respect.
There aren't actually any Palestinian women in any of those photos so looting their underwear is pretty irrelevant in the grander scale of what's going on there

Really? No one should be surprised that an army, the most moral in the world allegedly, not only raid houses, but steal underwear, put it on, pretend to perform sex acts on each other and photograph it and put it on social media? I'm shocked at both the level of complete minimising and victim blaming. Should we not be surprised at the dying dc who are starving to death either?

LifeofBrienne · 06/03/2024 20:56

‘The grander scale of what’s going on there’, well yes, Gaza is on the brink of famine because food’s not being allowed in, but that doesn’t mean those pictures aren’t disturbing.

Dulra · 06/03/2024 20:49

Lorelaigilmore88 · 06/03/2024 20:27

Yes the same Palestinian women and civilians who laughed and cheered in the streets in Gaza when Hamas returned with raped and brutalised Jewish women in the backs of trucks.
After what Hamas did to women on October 7th you cant be surprised that the IDF aren't particularly inclined to treat Palestinian women with any respect.
There aren't actually any Palestinian women in any of those photos so looting their underwear is pretty irrelevant in the grander scale of what's going on there.

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Disgusting comment. You know they're the same Palestinian women? You think they deserve to be treated this way? You do realise that the women this underwear belong to are likely dead but keep jeering them where the IDF left off.
It's pretty obvious the most moral army are not treating these innocent civilians with respect and the suggestion that they deserve it is outrageous and offensive to not only these women but all women. Shame on you

Lorelaigilmore88 · 06/03/2024 20:27

maudelovesharold · 05/03/2024 00:05

Yeah, but it’s not Hamas underwear, is it? It belongs to innocent Palestinian women who Israel has decided are going to pay the price, along with all the other innocent civilians. Israel has become a nation of Barbarians, when they could have been a force for morality and integrity in the world.

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Yes the same Palestinian women and civilians who laughed and cheered in the streets in Gaza when Hamas returned with raped and brutalised Jewish women in the backs of trucks.
After what Hamas did to women on October 7th you cant be surprised that the IDF aren't particularly inclined to treat Palestinian women with any respect.
There aren't actually any Palestinian women in any of those photos so looting their underwear is pretty irrelevant in the grander scale of what's going on there.

BoulderOpal · 06/03/2024 20:26

Resilience · 06/03/2024 18:10

It's men.

Men do shit like this to women, who usually are helpless pawns.

Too many men see women as props for their own lives.

Female violence towards men is not even comparable wherever you are in the world and especially so in times of war where sexual degradation and violence are used as weapons of war.

Men.

(BTW am happily married to a man, and have a much-loved son so not a man-hater, but able to recognise a worldwide phenomenon and call it out when I see it).

My thoughts are with all the women in the world who suffer this sort of treatment.

Absolutely this

EasterIssland · 06/03/2024 20:21

Dulra · 06/03/2024 19:22

I'll probably get flamed for this comment but I have a friend that works in social services and her area covers a military base. She said the percentage of domestic violence and child abuse cases is a lot higher among the military community in comparison to the civilian

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I see this a lot in my country as well.

Nopoppinginplease · 06/03/2024 20:19

Dulra · 06/03/2024 19:22

I'll probably get flamed for this comment but I have a friend that works in social services and her area covers a military base. She said the percentage of domestic violence and child abuse cases is a lot higher among the military community in comparison to the civilian

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No flaming necessary, there is quite a lot of evidence to support this.

Dulra · 06/03/2024 19:22

Resilience · 06/03/2024 18:10

It's men.

Men do shit like this to women, who usually are helpless pawns.

Too many men see women as props for their own lives.

Female violence towards men is not even comparable wherever you are in the world and especially so in times of war where sexual degradation and violence are used as weapons of war.

Men.

(BTW am happily married to a man, and have a much-loved son so not a man-hater, but able to recognise a worldwide phenomenon and call it out when I see it).

My thoughts are with all the women in the world who suffer this sort of treatment.

I'll probably get flamed for this comment but I have a friend that works in social services and her area covers a military base. She said the percentage of domestic violence and child abuse cases is a lot higher among the military community in comparison to the civilian

Fussandmisery · 06/03/2024 18:55

Resilience · 06/03/2024 18:10

It's men.

Men do shit like this to women, who usually are helpless pawns.

Too many men see women as props for their own lives.

Female violence towards men is not even comparable wherever you are in the world and especially so in times of war where sexual degradation and violence are used as weapons of war.

Men.

(BTW am happily married to a man, and have a much-loved son so not a man-hater, but able to recognise a worldwide phenomenon and call it out when I see it).

My thoughts are with all the women in the world who suffer this sort of treatment.

You may be right there.

Nopoppinginplease · 06/03/2024 18:17

My thoughts are with all the women in the world who suffer this sort of treatment

Hear hear.

Resilience · 06/03/2024 18:10

It's men.

Men do shit like this to women, who usually are helpless pawns.

Too many men see women as props for their own lives.

Female violence towards men is not even comparable wherever you are in the world and especially so in times of war where sexual degradation and violence are used as weapons of war.

Men.

(BTW am happily married to a man, and have a much-loved son so not a man-hater, but able to recognise a worldwide phenomenon and call it out when I see it).

My thoughts are with all the women in the world who suffer this sort of treatment.

Auvergne63 · 06/03/2024 17:37

ConnieCounter · 05/03/2024 08:37

This is the new thing. I was asked yesterday if I was going to be called to appear at the ICJ because I think my opinion is so important. There are some bizarre statements around here lately.

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I think there is a lot of posters who are finding it hard to carry on defending the indefensible and therefore resort to insults or/and some, frankly, weird statements.
I am still not over being called a "goady tosser" or a stalker. Lol.

Nopoppinginplease · 06/03/2024 17:34

User19798 · 06/03/2024 17:26

What the IDF are doing is in global terms horrifically and disturbingly normal.

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Is it? I understand in times of war degradation is a tactic. But posting it on social media is something else, especially when there is no repercussions.

Auvergne63 · 06/03/2024 17:33

Littlebowiepeep · 05/03/2024 08:34

@Dulra "I am engaging in a debate"

I'm glad you have the time - I have to go to work because feeding my family is more important than a conflict 2,000 miles away that I can't influence. 🙂

But yet you are here and find the time to post, despite you having to work. Very commendable of you as if the rest of us are lay abouts, which you imply. Lovely.
I will carry on caring while you stop posting on these threads. If I was a betting person, I would put money on you carrying on posting and definitively win that bet.