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IDF fixation with looting Palestinian women’s underwear

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Prrambulate · 04/03/2024 19:48

Can someone explain this disturbing phenomenon?

IDF fixation with looting Palestinian women’s underwear
IDF fixation with looting Palestinian women’s underwear
IDF fixation with looting Palestinian women’s underwear
IDF fixation with looting Palestinian women’s underwear
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LemonyTicket · 03/04/2024 10:52

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Hoppinggreen · 03/04/2024 09:54

TwigletsAndRadishes · 07/03/2024 14:45

Presumably because of what Hamas did to Jewish women last October.

Exactly. As a comparison, I really can't get very worked up about Israeli soldiers larking about in a Palestinian woman's bra.

Yeah, but it’s not Hamas underwear, is it? It belongs to innocent Palestinian women who Israel has decided are going to pay the price, along with all the other innocent civilians.

And the women who were stripped, raped, shot and stabbed in the vagina, murdered, then paraded through the streets naked on the back of trucks, to the delight of baying Palestinian mobs were just innocent Israeli women, whom Hamas had decided should pay a price. The babies who had their throats cut were just innocent babies whom Hamas decided should pay a price.

Given the choice, would you rather be one of the Israeli woman raped and killed by Hamas on 7/10, or one of the Palestinian women having her underwear nicked by the IDF?

You seem to be saying that because a small number of Palestianian men treated some Israeli women very very badly (which I utterly condemn) then the IDF have carte blanche to do what they want to any Palestinian women?
Its that "they started it" attitude that means the wordl just watched as over 30000 Palestinians were killed by Israel and now more are being starved to death while dying of perfectly treatable things if they had access to medical care.
Israel WAS provoked but their actions now have gone beyind fighting back and are closer to genocide

EasterIssland · 03/04/2024 09:54

LemonyTicket · 03/04/2024 09:39

I intensely dislike this behavior from some of the IDF soldiers. It's dishonourable, and I am of a mindset that no matter what is done to you, you should never stoop below a level of dignity.

That said, they watched their women, bleeding from their vaginas, loaded into cars and taken as prisoners where they are possibly (even likely) to be being raped. They also watched their women left murdered, with their underwear removed and their nude vaginas exposed, burned to a crisp. They also watched their women, dead, limbs bent unnaturally and paraded on the back of a truck while the crowd of Gazans cheered and spat on the corpse.

So, well...perspective.

Have they also seen Palestinian girls being murdered ? And without limbs? And orphaned? And have they seen the women they’ve raped ?

btw I don’t think eye for eye works. One thing doesn’t make the other one right

Hoppinggreen · 03/04/2024 09:48

IF the images are genuine its just more of the Israeli dehumanisation of Palestinians.
They obviously learned lessons in the 30's (and before) about dehumanising a race/nation to make it easier to exterminate them.

LemonyTicket · 03/04/2024 09:39

I intensely dislike this behavior from some of the IDF soldiers. It's dishonourable, and I am of a mindset that no matter what is done to you, you should never stoop below a level of dignity.

That said, they watched their women, bleeding from their vaginas, loaded into cars and taken as prisoners where they are possibly (even likely) to be being raped. They also watched their women left murdered, with their underwear removed and their nude vaginas exposed, burned to a crisp. They also watched their women, dead, limbs bent unnaturally and paraded on the back of a truck while the crowd of Gazans cheered and spat on the corpse.

So, well...perspective.

ScrollingLeaves · 28/03/2024 13:16

EasterIssland · 07/03/2024 14:51

Do you know the whereabouts of the women whose knickers have been nicked by the idf??

theyre probably

  1. Arrested (illegally)
  2. Displaced in minimum conditions
  3. Killed

don’t think any of the options is desirable to be honest

Suffocating under rubble.

Have a limb missing.

Be burying their child.

ScrollingLeaves · 28/03/2024 13:03

Prrambulate · 04/03/2024 19:48

Can someone explain this disturbing phenomenon?

I think the reason will be to jeer and at Palestinian men. This will be not just underwear to Palestinians but all that is private and sacred. Distance abuse.

(Hope the underwear is not trophies from actual abuse but just taunting and banter suggesting it.)

Silence1 · 28/03/2024 12:23

Reuters have run an article on this today. IDF usual response

Israeli soldiers play with Gaza women's underwear in online posts | Reuters

EasterIssland · 07/03/2024 18:07

Pennina · 07/03/2024 17:44

Absolute rubbish

Do you have proof that what some Zaka members said weren’t lies ? Even Israel news talk about some 7/10 misinformation so not sure why you’d categorise that as rubbish but each to their own

Pennina · 07/03/2024 17:44

EasterIssland · 07/03/2024 17:22

There is more and more reports about how Zaka spread lies in order to financially benefit.

Absolute rubbish

SpryAmberSeal · 07/03/2024 17:30

Pennina · 07/03/2024 17:18

That is absolutely not true, many babies were killed. One was even ripped from their mother's stomach and shot in front of her. Hamas filmed these things, and there are witnesses, and physical evidence. Of course someone will say the Israeli's made it up next. You'll just say what you want so no matter.

It is true. Israel aren't even saying that that is true anymore. It is well reported at this point. The youngest victim was 10-month-old Mila Cohen, shot and killed at Kibbutz Beeri.

EasterIssland · 07/03/2024 17:22

There is more and more reports about how Zaka spread lies in order to financially benefit.

EasterIssland · 07/03/2024 17:20

Pennina · 07/03/2024 17:18

That is absolutely not true, many babies were killed. One was even ripped from their mother's stomach and shot in front of her. Hamas filmed these things, and there are witnesses, and physical evidence. Of course someone will say the Israeli's made it up next. You'll just say what you want so no matter.

If Hamas filmed this , then why has un said this week that the exact example you’re posting hasn’t been proven to be right ? And the Israeli person that said this has been proven to lie about several things of 710?

Pennina · 07/03/2024 17:18

SpryAmberSeal · 07/03/2024 15:45

The babies who had their throats cut were just innocent babies whom Hamas decided should pay a price.

This is disinformation. Please stop spreading it in order to validate what Israel are doing in Gaza. No babies had their throats cut by Hamas. 1 baby was unfortunately killed on 7/10 and that baby was shot.

That is absolutely not true, many babies were killed. One was even ripped from their mother's stomach and shot in front of her. Hamas filmed these things, and there are witnesses, and physical evidence. Of course someone will say the Israeli's made it up next. You'll just say what you want so no matter.

EasterIssland · 07/03/2024 17:01

@Dulra im sorry going to “correct” a sentence you’ve posted

The IDF are in Gaza to defend Israel whilst protecting the life of the Palestinian civilians.

Nopoppinginplease · 07/03/2024 16:57

*Presumably because of what Hamas did to Jewish women last October.

Exactly. As a comparison, I really can't get very worked up about Israeli soldiers larking about in a Palestinian woman's bra.*

You do realize that people who claim that Hamas are resistance fighters use this same logic? That they can't get worked up about 7/10 as Israel has been carrying out atrocities since 1948.... Or maybe it only works one way? Hmm

Dulra · 07/03/2024 16:56

TwigletsAndRadishes · 07/03/2024 14:45

Presumably because of what Hamas did to Jewish women last October.

Exactly. As a comparison, I really can't get very worked up about Israeli soldiers larking about in a Palestinian woman's bra.

Yeah, but it’s not Hamas underwear, is it? It belongs to innocent Palestinian women who Israel has decided are going to pay the price, along with all the other innocent civilians.

And the women who were stripped, raped, shot and stabbed in the vagina, murdered, then paraded through the streets naked on the back of trucks, to the delight of baying Palestinian mobs were just innocent Israeli women, whom Hamas had decided should pay a price. The babies who had their throats cut were just innocent babies whom Hamas decided should pay a price.

Given the choice, would you rather be one of the Israeli woman raped and killed by Hamas on 7/10, or one of the Palestinian women having her underwear nicked by the IDF?

Given the choice, would you rather be one of the Israeli woman raped and killed by Hamas on 7/10, or one of the Palestinian women having her underwear nicked by the IDF?
Given the choice I would not want to see either of those things happen to any woman anywhere. I can have compassion for both, I can be angry for both, I want justice for both. I certainly would not want one person's pain and suffering be used to beat another with and I doubt the Israeli women who were brutally raped and assaulted would want that either. The IDF are in Gaza to defend Israel (or so we're told) they are not there to seek revenge. I do not understand the mentality of you and other posters who have this eye for eye tooth for a tooth mentality.
Your words are unbelievably cruel and heartless. I can understand people's anger but I can't accept their indifference to the ongoing treatment of civilians in Gaza

Auvergne63 · 07/03/2024 15:51

TwigletsAndRadishes · 07/03/2024 14:59

Do you know the whereabouts of the women whose knickers have been nicked by the idf??

theyre probably

  1. Arrested (illegally)
  2. Displaced in minimum conditions
  3. Killed

Okay, so would you rather be a Palestinian woman who has been arrested illegally, a Palestinian woman who is displaced and very scared and stressed, but alive and unraped? Or if you had to be dead would you rather be dead because of mortar fire or dead because you were gang raped, stabbed in the vagina for a laugh, then shot?

Or are you going to keep asking me questions rather than answer mine?

a Palestinian woman who is displaced and very scared and stressed,
Understatement? Just a bit. You also forgot a Palestinian woman who, more than likely, watched her loved ones die, through bombardment, starvation, disease or because her cancer/ diabetes couldn't be treated; take your pick, please.
Stressed
I get stressed when I am running late. I think you meant traumatised.
Unraped
Bold of you to assume some IDF soldiers do not rape Palestinians, after all rape is used as a weapon of war and has been used as such for centuries.
I won't answer your question because this isn't a game of "would you rather?" and because I do not grade horrors. Suffering is suffering.

ConnieCounter · 07/03/2024 15:45

TwigletsAndRadishes · 07/03/2024 15:35

This post is absolutely disgraceful.

You are the one wanting to make a really big thing about Israeli soldiers dehumanising and humiliating Palestinian women by posing in their underwear, presumably looted from their homes when they were not present, so it's odd that you are reluctant to be drawn on the dehumanisation and humiliation of Israeli women who were raped and murdered by Hamas.
You've had an awful lot to say on the behaviour of the IDF over the last couple of months and yet I can find nothing, not one single comment from you condemning the utterly, utterly barbaric Hamas attacks on innocent people including women and children that started all this. In hundereds of posts from you on this war I can't find a single post where you've even referenced what happened on 7/10, let alone condemned it. Yet you get highly exercised by every single thing that has happened since, including pictures of Israeli soldiers in stolen bras.

Well the IDF is carrying out noteworthy war crimes on a daily basis. So I comment as they commit them. Back in October I did post about what happened in Israel but due to outrageous harassment I had to change my username so you won't find those posts. I also almost never post in threads that are pro Israeli in nature because I was told in no uncertain terms not to and was hounded out.

But thanks for the deep dive into my posting history. That's totally normal behaviour.

And none of your rant about me changes that your post is absolutely disgraceful.

SpryAmberSeal · 07/03/2024 15:45

The babies who had their throats cut were just innocent babies whom Hamas decided should pay a price.

This is disinformation. Please stop spreading it in order to validate what Israel are doing in Gaza. No babies had their throats cut by Hamas. 1 baby was unfortunately killed on 7/10 and that baby was shot.

EasterIssland · 07/03/2024 15:44

TwigletsAndRadishes · 07/03/2024 15:35

This post is absolutely disgraceful.

You are the one wanting to make a really big thing about Israeli soldiers dehumanising and humiliating Palestinian women by posing in their underwear, presumably looted from their homes when they were not present, so it's odd that you are reluctant to be drawn on the dehumanisation and humiliation of Israeli women who were raped and murdered by Hamas.
You've had an awful lot to say on the behaviour of the IDF over the last couple of months and yet I can find nothing, not one single comment from you condemning the utterly, utterly barbaric Hamas attacks on innocent people including women and children that started all this. In hundereds of posts from you on this war I can't find a single post where you've even referenced what happened on 7/10, let alone condemned it. Yet you get highly exercised by every single thing that has happened since, including pictures of Israeli soldiers in stolen bras.

I hope your clothes are never a reason for mockery whilst you’re going through a war

TwigletsAndRadishes · 07/03/2024 15:35

This post is absolutely disgraceful.

You are the one wanting to make a really big thing about Israeli soldiers dehumanising and humiliating Palestinian women by posing in their underwear, presumably looted from their homes when they were not present, so it's odd that you are reluctant to be drawn on the dehumanisation and humiliation of Israeli women who were raped and murdered by Hamas.
You've had an awful lot to say on the behaviour of the IDF over the last couple of months and yet I can find nothing, not one single comment from you condemning the utterly, utterly barbaric Hamas attacks on innocent people including women and children that started all this. In hundereds of posts from you on this war I can't find a single post where you've even referenced what happened on 7/10, let alone condemned it. Yet you get highly exercised by every single thing that has happened since, including pictures of Israeli soldiers in stolen bras.

ConnieCounter · 07/03/2024 15:15

TwigletsAndRadishes · 07/03/2024 14:59

Do you know the whereabouts of the women whose knickers have been nicked by the idf??

theyre probably

  1. Arrested (illegally)
  2. Displaced in minimum conditions
  3. Killed

Okay, so would you rather be a Palestinian woman who has been arrested illegally, a Palestinian woman who is displaced and very scared and stressed, but alive and unraped? Or if you had to be dead would you rather be dead because of mortar fire or dead because you were gang raped, stabbed in the vagina for a laugh, then shot?

Or are you going to keep asking me questions rather than answer mine?

This post is absolutely disgraceful.