Hamas refusing ceasefire??????

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/06/middleeast/hamas-agrees-ceasefire-proposal-israel-gaza-latam-intl/index.html

This article makes the extremely important observation that It's unclear whether Hamas has agreed to the most recent ceasefire proposal, as outlined last week, or a revised version of it because the Israeli govt still does not agree with a permanent ceasefire or complete withdrawal of troops as outlined in the original proposal, so could just be a Hamas ploy setting up Israel to fail at this point, rather than a genuine acceptance. Hopefully, it's genuine and a deal is reached swiftly.

Hamas has accepted a ceasefire. Israel has to accept it yet

ive seen commments that a ceasefire might be inminent

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Hamas was guaranteed by the U.S. for a full Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip and that Israeli forces will not continue fighting once the hostages are released ■ An Israeli official told Haaretz that 'Israel will, under no circumstances, agree to end the war as part of a deal' and is determined to enter Rafah

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-05-04/ty-article/.premium/report-hamas-accepts-gaza-cease-fire-deal-israeli-officials-deny-prospect-of-war-ending/0000018f-42eb-d414-a5bf-f3fff18a0000

The airstrikes on Gaza started on October 7th, while the Hamas attack was still ongoing. By 23:59 GMT on October 7th:

• ”At least 232 Palestinians have been killed in Israeli air attacks on the Gaza Strip according to medical sources, launched after a Hamas offensive against Israel. At least 250 Israelis have been killed.
• According to Hamas’s military wing, it has captured “several times greater” than dozens of Israelis.
• Hamas, which runs Gaza, said its offensive is a response to the desecration of the Al-Aqsa Mosque and increased settler violence. You can read more here on how Hamas’s offensive unfolded.
• Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has told residents of the besieged enclave to “leave now”, saying Israel’s forces “will turn all Hamas hideouts into rubble”.

Yes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war

This link includes satellite images of Gaza on the 10th and 21st October 2023.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67241290

But... I though Hamas were okay actually and only pretending to hate Jews because they were all emosh?

That was the ground invasion / attack but the air strikes started few days after 7/10 didn’t they?

I don’t think either side wants a ceasefire. I hate the butchers of Hamas as much as I despise the murderous Israeli leaders.

As I said at the very beginning of this conflict, nobody in power gives a shit about the ordinary Palestinian people.

More from Wikipedia,

On 13 October 2023, the IDF sent armoured vehicles and infantry into the Gaza Strip, stating that their goals were to attack Hamas militants and to rescue hostages that had been abducted to Gaza by Hamas. The operation, according to Israeli officials, was not part of a larger and widely anticipated ground invasion, but rather a raid in which troops only temporarily enter the Gaza Strip. The IDF confirmed the same day that Israeli remains were located and retrieved in the Gaza Strip.[84]

On 21 October 2023, the Israeli army dropped more leaflets in Gaza with the message: "Urgent warning! To the residents of Gaza: your presence to the North of Wadi Gaza is putting your lives at risk. Anyone who chooses not to evacuate from the North of the Gaza Strip to the South of the Gaza Strip may be identified as a partner in a terrorist organization."

On the evening of 27 October, the IDF launched a large-scale ground assault on the towns of Beit Hanoun and Bureij in the Gaza Strip.

Did you read my link?

Or you can look at the numerous other reports, images, videos and stories everywhere you look online.

The bombing of innocent civilians and children was well under way well before Oct 27th.

From Wikipedia

'On the evening of 27 October 2023, Israel launched a large-scale invasion of the Gaza Strip, with the stated goals of eliminating and destroying Hamas, a military and political movement which led an attack against Israel earlier in October, and to free hostages taken by Hamas.'

Gazan civilians and children were being bombed and killed in large numbers almost immediately.

Cut the whitewashing!!

Israel response to Oct 7
Eh? The IDF didn’t start attacking in Gaza till 27th Oct???

Think you need to read back on this.

That interview was given just over 3 weeks after the attack of 7/10. Hardly when the IDF were "at the peak of bombing". The IDF did not started their attack on Hamas in Gaza until 27/10/23.

And how can anyone sure they won't change their mind again?

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@Snowypeak 'Bit different from Israel’s view that Hamas wants to kill all Jews and take over Israel?'

But that's exactly what Hamas sad they would do !

Although it certainly looks to me as if Israel is killing thousands of Palestinians and taking over Palestine.

@Mothercareyschickenhut
Thank you.

So the US are optimistic about a proposal that Hamas has not yet received.

Hamas wants Israel to withdraw from Gaza and the West Bank. For civilians and aid to be allowed back to Northern Gaza.

Ultimately its goal is for Gaza and the West Bank to be united under one government which will be transparently elected by the people. The international community will be allowed to monitor the election process.

Bit different from Israel’s view that Hamas wants to kill all Jews and take over Israel?

Not if the ceasefire is temporary.

Hamas speaks

Of course Hamas don’t want a ceasefire. The whole point of 7/10 was to provoke a disproportionate reaction from Israel.

What's the difference? Isn't a ceasefire then end of the war??

I don't get it.🙄

I’m not sure they do believe it, I think they pretend to, in order to justify the total destruction of Gaza and the genocide.