Anti-Muslim hate has increased since 7-10

I think ‘expat’ denotes having money. I haven’t heard the temporary immigrant workforce from the Indian subcontinent who are abused and build the skyscrapers of Dubai being called that.

I feel PARTICULARLY protective, however of the Jewish community in this country as they are by FAR the minority in this particular battle

A Muslim kid facing verbal Islamophobic abuse feels as much fear as a Jewish child facing antisemitic comments. It’s not a competition.

It is all disgusting and we should be shouting down both.

Again, none of the above. You are not reading or deliberately misrepresenting my posts.

No. If people really want that they need to seek specialist schools.

But even in mainstream schools and workplaces, why not adapt and accommodate reasonable requests. Eg many hospitals now have a prayer room. So it supports the much-needed workforce to practise their faith whilst they work. I live where there is a large Jewish population and big school events don’t take place on Jewish holidays. I think it’s ok to expect and accommodate reasonable adjustments by discussion with relevant groups. It’s amazing how understanding people can be when they talk with each other openly and without prejudice and solutions can be found.

Some people froth at the mouth about this stuff. Others find compromises and workable solutions. I know which group I prefer to be in.

”expats” (as opposed to immigrants - apparently only a term that applies to brown people who move overseas)

I’ve know plenty of ‘brown’ expats in the UK. Expats are not immigrants as they have no intention to stay and normally have visas closely tied to their work (generally for international companies).

Neither of the above. Please read my posts.

You know this simply isn't true.

When the IRA were bombing left right and centre in the 80s/90s there was a lot of anti-Irish sentiment and it lingered.

I moved out of London for work, made the mistake of mentioning my Irish heritage and got horrible, cutting treatment. I still receive a certain level of it in certain circles if the subject comes up.

I hate to see it happen to anyone and, as a pp said I believe it demonstrates a certain level of stupidity. I feel PARTICULARLY protective, however of the Jewish community in this country as they are by FAR the minority in this particular battle and have faced continual persecution for longer than most civilisations have been able to write.

There are all-girls and all-boys schools in the UK. It's an education option that's been available for a long time, completely independent of Islam.

I haven't. Please read my posts.

Language learning is hard, especially as an adult.

It's hard enough trying to learn a language that uses the same script (eg English, French, Spanish). Learning languages that use completely different scripts and sounds is really challenging, especially to a high level. I can read, write and speak several different languages in different scripts to varying standards, but I still think in my native language, constantly translating back and forth in my head. That means I'm nowhere near as good at communicating in those languages.

Thanks for understanding the importance of interpreters.

Like antisemitic attacks are in response to the actions of the Israeli government? Nope. It’s never acceptable or understandable. Hate crimes, racism and prejudice are never ok. It’s black and white, pardon the (kind of) pun. Do not blame innocent victims for the acts of others.

And yet in the Scottish First Minister elections it was Christianity, not Islam, that was roundly criticised by mainstream media.

I can’t believe this thread on hatred and bigotry has descended into a debate on the availability of pork sausages for “expats” (as opposed to immigrants - apparently only a term that applies to brown people who move overseas).

I can confirm I’ve been to Dubai ladies and that all the major supermarkets have “non Halal/non Muslim” sections where one, can indeed, acquire said pork sausages. Based on the number of teenage girls wandering around the malls in hotpants with sunburned bums on show, you can also rest easy on that front too.

here’s a link where you can even order gammon steak if it helps release your outrage.

https://www.spinneys.com/en-ae/catalogue/category/non-muslim_563/

Should people not be allowed to practise their religions? Is that what you are saying?

How far do you go with this? Should sexes be segregated in schools?

I agree with much of this. Both communities need to work together better to improve things.

Anyway if nothing else, we can see from this thread that Islamophobia is around as much as ever, with a dash of racism thrown in. And no politicians or celebs care and nobody will ever march against it. And so it continues.

Should people not be allowed to practise their religions? Is that what you are saying?

Public services would be a disaster without interpreters. It would end up costing more as people got the wrong medication or misunderstood advice. I do wish people would make a concerted attempt to learn the language. But expats in Spain struggle with it, so I expect many Muslims struggle here too. What can you do?

I think we'll have to agree to disagree there.

This kind of thing is widespread and normalised in UK society and has been for generations. Different groups have been on the receiving end at different points in time.

No matter what different groups do to try to 'conform', the only lasting solution is for people across society, in government and in the media to actually take a long hard look at themselves and be willing to challenge the underlying processes perpetuating this.

Additionally, I think if you actually were to look, you would see a lot of very positive community work, including projects looking at helping divert people away from the risk factors for involvement with extremism, projects helping develop bridges between communities, etc. all active within Muslim communities and organisations. One of the biggest challenges such projects encounter is that, if you're reaching out to make a connection, the connection is only established if someone reaches back, and often I've found a distinct lack of interest in engagement when doing so.

I'm sorry but I completely disagree with this. It's not an inevitable response. People have a choice in how they respond. Racism, in this case Islamophobia, is a choice. An incredibly lazy choice but a choice nonetheless.

If there are people who can only eat pork sausages due to religious/dietary restrictions and there are no possible substitutes, then that should be catered for. How many people like this do you know? Stop being silly.

You know exactly what you are saying, without using the words.

We have to agree to disagree. Prejudice against white people is not racism because it is not going to affect life outcomes. Is it equally as unpleasant on an individual level? Yes. But that is as far as it goes.

You forgot walking on our pavement and breathing our air ( you need to have been in the country for 5 years before you can do that).

It’s not really right to characterise it as religious. It’s more an ethnic conflict similar to Bosnia in that the two sides largely follow different religions