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Anti-Muslim hate has increased since 7-10

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EasterIssland · 22/02/2024 19:24

Out of the 901 off-line cases of anti-Muslim hate, there were 535 reports of abusive behaviour, 77 threats, 83 assaults, 79 acts of vandalism, 69 cases of discrimination, 39 acts of hate speech and 19 examples of anti-Muslim literature.

https://news.sky.com/story/335-rise-in-anti-muslim-hate-cases-in-uk-since-hamass-attack-on-7-october-13078030?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

Greatest rise in anti-Muslim hate in UK since Hamas's attack on 7 October

Incidents included verbal threats, online abuse and in one instance, a Muslim family had the word "Hamas" written on their front door, a UK-based organisation has said.

https://news.sky.com/story/335-rise-in-anti-muslim-hate-cases-in-uk-since-hamass-attack-on-7-october-13078030?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

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Parkingt111 · 22/02/2024 20:33

It didn't take long for anti-muslim hate to be justified, and I'm not so suprised either.
I get anti-muslim hate at times in real life and its just something I have sort of accepted as part of being a muslim and a minority, as long as its not physical I try to shrug it off. And also keeping in mind that I am not the only minority to recieve hate simply for being who they are.

stormy4319trevor · 22/02/2024 20:33

@Annime I don't think any of that is a good reason for British Muslims to be attacked.

EasterIssland · 22/02/2024 20:32

Annime · 22/02/2024 20:31

What so you think about the violence Muslims wreak on Christians in other parts of the world? Where they go into people's houses and burn them (those are the lucky ones) or hack them to death. And torch churches. All unprovoked but in the name of Allah.

The above is happening in Sudan and I'm yet to read anything here saying how it's wrong that, that happens.

It's of course very sad that Gaza is in turmoil, sad that Israel suffered the attacks, sad that people in some parts of Sudan have been forced from home. ALL of it is sad. But I can't stand the sanctimonious crowd that forgets just how others have suffered at the hands of Muslims too. Personally, I just look on.

And I'm saying this as someone with one Muslim parent who has seen terrible things spoken about non-muslims by the same people who are now saying how what is going in Gaza is so bad and how Israel has gone so far yet they are not any better themselves in other parts ofbthe worls where they hold more power than those they persecute. It's all rubbish!!

Would you be happy with your relative being attacked / receive hate speech because another Muslim in another part of the world is doing something despicable ? Eye for eye ? Can’t we recognise that anti Muslim hate in the uk is not ok?

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MissyB1 · 22/02/2024 20:32

Didn’t take long for the racists to pitch up did it? 😡

Annime · 22/02/2024 20:31

EasterIssland · 22/02/2024 19:24

Out of the 901 off-line cases of anti-Muslim hate, there were 535 reports of abusive behaviour, 77 threats, 83 assaults, 79 acts of vandalism, 69 cases of discrimination, 39 acts of hate speech and 19 examples of anti-Muslim literature.

https://news.sky.com/story/335-rise-in-anti-muslim-hate-cases-in-uk-since-hamass-attack-on-7-october-13078030?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

What so you think about the violence Muslims wreak on Christians in other parts of the world? Where they go into people's houses and burn them (those are the lucky ones) or hack them to death. And torch churches. All unprovoked but in the name of Allah.

The above is happening in Sudan and I'm yet to read anything here saying how it's wrong that, that happens.

It's of course very sad that Gaza is in turmoil, sad that Israel suffered the attacks, sad that people in some parts of Sudan have been forced from home. ALL of it is sad. But I can't stand the sanctimonious crowd that forgets just how others have suffered at the hands of Muslims too. Personally, I just look on.

And I'm saying this as someone with one Muslim parent who has seen terrible things spoken about non-muslims by the same people who are now saying how what is going in Gaza is so bad and how Israel has gone so far yet they are not any better themselves in other parts ofbthe worls where they hold more power than those they persecute. It's all rubbish!!

EasterIssland · 22/02/2024 20:30

exactly

Anti-Muslim hate has increased since 7-10
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stormy4319trevor · 22/02/2024 20:29

Sorry, I know Muslims can be white, but my area is pretty secular and does not have significant religious/ethnic diversity.

stormy4319trevor · 22/02/2024 20:27

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I think they are probably the kind of people @JanewaysBun wisely references, so nothing new there. More likely these 'people' use the marches as an excuse to express deeply held prejudice. Marches around my way are mostly middle aged and older people, lots of women, not very diverse - mostly white actually, due to the area demographics. I expect you would find the marchers are a diverse bunch around the country and not only Muslims.

Scirocco · 22/02/2024 20:26

@OppsUpsSide I'm not sure I understand - are you saying that the actions of unpleasant people completely unconnected to me mean that's it's less bad when I get attacked?

dimllaishebiaith · 22/02/2024 20:25

Throwawayme · 22/02/2024 20:08

Its not detailing the thread at all to point out the increase in attacks on both sides. These marches promote antisemitism. That's why they don't help. People marching with "from the river to the sea" on their banners. Maybe many of them don't know what it means, but Jewish people do.

So are you implying that Jewish people are responsible for the rise in anti-muslim hate?

I think it far more likely that at least a proportion of anti-semetic hate and anti-muslim hate come from the same kind of people who use the current situation to justify abuse to anyone they percieve as "other" whether thats Muslims or Jews

OppsUpsSide · 22/02/2024 20:23

Islamists do come under the Muslim umbrella, and their rhetoric does fuel suspicion and fear that ends up negatively impacting other Muslims, so I disagree with you, I think it is relevant.

EasterIssland · 22/02/2024 20:23

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How is it Muslims fault ? 🤔

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Scirocco · 22/02/2024 20:22

Oh! @JanewaysBun I didn't know the greenbelt was us too - I must have missed the memo!

Yeah, I've found that too with local and national media. The language used, the level of sensitivity... it's all quite different depending on race, faith and culture.

stormy4319trevor · 22/02/2024 20:20

@OppsUpsSide This is a thread about attacks on Muslims, so I don't know why you are mentioning Islamism. I think you have been listening to too much Hartley Brewer.

OppsUpsSide · 22/02/2024 20:15

@stormy4319trevor you ‘don’t know what I’m talking about’ but it ‘sounds’ offensive?
The threat of Islamist intimidation has been a topic of conversation in the Houses of Parliament today.

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JanewaysBun · 22/02/2024 20:14

(For context i am not muslim) I think many, many British people look for the tiniest excuse to have a pop at muslims. I follow a local newspaper FB page and whatever they report, the comments section will blame it on muslims, including things like the green belt being built on Confused. Since 2001 the racists have seen them as an easy target imo.

stormy4319trevor · 22/02/2024 20:13

Throwawayme · 22/02/2024 20:08

Its not detailing the thread at all to point out the increase in attacks on both sides. These marches promote antisemitism. That's why they don't help. People marching with "from the river to the sea" on their banners. Maybe many of them don't know what it means, but Jewish people do.

Are you saying the marches are responsible for increasing attacks on Muslims?

Scirocco · 22/02/2024 20:11

Throwawayme · 22/02/2024 20:08

Its not detailing the thread at all to point out the increase in attacks on both sides. These marches promote antisemitism. That's why they don't help. People marching with "from the river to the sea" on their banners. Maybe many of them don't know what it means, but Jewish people do.

I think the point being made was that there is already a thread (several) focusing on anti-semitic hate but no equivalent space to discuss the distressing experiences of Muslims.

stormy4319trevor · 22/02/2024 20:10

@OppsUpsSide I don't know what you are talking about, but it sounds offensive.

Scirocco · 22/02/2024 20:09

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As a Muslim, it's not clear to me that society thinks anti-Muslim hate is unacceptable. On the contrary, we experience a great deal of hostility and aggression which is denied, minimised and justified.

Consider for a moment how you might feel, as part of a minority experiencing considerable hostility and discrimination, to have a thread started acknowledging that people like you are experiencing hate crimes and abuse, and then within the first ten posts to be told it's not surprising, other people are experiencing issues too, it's got to be considered in context, etc.... How would that make you feel? Welcome? Accepted? Equal?

Throwawayme · 22/02/2024 20:08

Its not detailing the thread at all to point out the increase in attacks on both sides. These marches promote antisemitism. That's why they don't help. People marching with "from the river to the sea" on their banners. Maybe many of them don't know what it means, but Jewish people do.

stormy4319trevor · 22/02/2024 20:03

I agree @Scirocco that the media exacerbates this, particularly outlets like GB News, DM and the Sun. Political figures - yes, although it's not new. I'm remembering Johnson's comments before he became PM. I am so sorry Muslims have to deal with this.

OppsUpsSide · 22/02/2024 20:00

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EasterIssland · 22/02/2024 19:54

Scirocco · 22/02/2024 19:52

Thank you for starting this.

It is a significant problem, exacerbated I think by some of the language used by political figures and the media in relation to the conflict.

No worries. Im not Muslim myself but I do recognise how this all is affecting this community and they’re many times forgotten

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