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Anti-Muslim hate has increased since 7-10

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EasterIssland · 22/02/2024 19:24

Out of the 901 off-line cases of anti-Muslim hate, there were 535 reports of abusive behaviour, 77 threats, 83 assaults, 79 acts of vandalism, 69 cases of discrimination, 39 acts of hate speech and 19 examples of anti-Muslim literature.

https://news.sky.com/story/335-rise-in-anti-muslim-hate-cases-in-uk-since-hamass-attack-on-7-october-13078030?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

Greatest rise in anti-Muslim hate in UK since Hamas's attack on 7 October

Incidents included verbal threats, online abuse and in one instance, a Muslim family had the word "Hamas" written on their front door, a UK-based organisation has said.

https://news.sky.com/story/335-rise-in-anti-muslim-hate-cases-in-uk-since-hamass-attack-on-7-october-13078030?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

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headstone · 26/02/2024 19:01

This isn’t even the first time Khan has to put up with Tory Islamophobia, I remember when Zak aGoldsmith also tried to paint him as a Muslim extremist in order to win the vote, thankfully the people of London saw through it when they realised Khan new his way around London being he was a real Londoner. Sadly the genocide in Gaza has reignited the far right and anti Muslim hatred again.

Parkingt111 · 26/02/2024 08:39

@MooseBreath I'm sorry for your experience, and also just wanted to say that I think it's very kind of you to make an effort with the other mother who you can see is being left out

Dulra · 26/02/2024 07:47

@PaintInColour I completely agree with you. I have seen so much double standards on these boards. People calling people out for antisemitism in every form and rightly so while at the same time using derogatory language when talking about Palestinians and Muslims and even dismissing others who point out anti Muslim language and hate. I find that so unpalatable and I have said it on here a few times you either see all people as equal or you don't, you can't pick and choose who you feel is fair game for discrimination and who isn't.

PaintInColour · 26/02/2024 07:30

OppsUpsSide · 26/02/2024 07:05

What also annoyed me about your comment is that you dismissed my opinion on Islamophobia

I’m not dismissing it, you are entitled to your opinion, however I don’t think Muslims are underrepresented in positions of power which would seem to be a positive, especially for people who are very concerned that the Muslim population is a vulnerable minority.

Two people in power does not take away from individual experiences of Islamophobia, which is what I was talking about. If someone said that Jewish people are abused for wearing their orthodox clothes, would it be ok for me to say in response that there are Jewish people in positions of power? How is that an appropriate response? I don’t think it is. At all.

OppsUpsSide · 26/02/2024 07:05

What also annoyed me about your comment is that you dismissed my opinion on Islamophobia

I’m not dismissing it, you are entitled to your opinion, however I don’t think Muslims are underrepresented in positions of power which would seem to be a positive, especially for people who are very concerned that the Muslim population is a vulnerable minority.

PaintInColour · 26/02/2024 07:01

OppsUpsSide · 23/02/2024 00:01

Muslim hatred is a chronic and accepted state.

with a Muslim head of state in Scotland and a Muslim mayor of London. You do the whole community a disservice by dismissing them as unrepresented and having no agency.

What also annoyed me about your comment is that you dismissed my opinion on Islamophobia by mentioning two Muslim people who are in positions of power. When anyone mentions Jewish prominent figures, we are told it’s an antisemitic trope to talk about Jewish people running the world. There is such incredible hypocrisy around. From day one it’s been obvious to those who choose to see.

PeasfullPerson · 25/02/2024 19:32

MooseBreath · 25/02/2024 18:04

I figure that since many people who know I am Jewish have distanced themselves from me in the past few months, the same is happening to those who are Muslim. It's horrible. Hate crimes are definitely on the rise.

At an Under-5s group I attend, I have noticed that the only Muslim mum who attends has been sat on her own a lot more since October 7th. I have joined her on occasion, but generally have to follow around my rowdy toddler. It's not unnoticed though, and she and I have discussed the loneliness of it all.

I’m really sorry to hear that is happening, what a horrible experience. I’m pleased you have found each other.

Dulra · 25/02/2024 18:58

MooseBreath · 25/02/2024 18:04

I figure that since many people who know I am Jewish have distanced themselves from me in the past few months, the same is happening to those who are Muslim. It's horrible. Hate crimes are definitely on the rise.

At an Under-5s group I attend, I have noticed that the only Muslim mum who attends has been sat on her own a lot more since October 7th. I have joined her on occasion, but generally have to follow around my rowdy toddler. It's not unnoticed though, and she and I have discussed the loneliness of it all.

That is awful I cannot understand people's mentality to exclude someone in this way. So blinkered

Dulra · 25/02/2024 18:52

kirinm · 25/02/2024 11:18

And two MPs (Tory) have refused to acknowledge it was racist. Tories seem intent on Islamophobia being their election strategy.

They've obviously seen the success of Trump 😓

MooseBreath · 25/02/2024 18:04

I figure that since many people who know I am Jewish have distanced themselves from me in the past few months, the same is happening to those who are Muslim. It's horrible. Hate crimes are definitely on the rise.

At an Under-5s group I attend, I have noticed that the only Muslim mum who attends has been sat on her own a lot more since October 7th. I have joined her on occasion, but generally have to follow around my rowdy toddler. It's not unnoticed though, and she and I have discussed the loneliness of it all.

kirinm · 25/02/2024 11:18

headstone · 25/02/2024 11:15

Apparently Lee Anderson wouldn’t have lost the whip if he had apologised. There is still denial among Tory MPs and Sunak that these comments were islamophobic. I wonder what an actual islamophobic comment would be? The worrying thing is that islamophobia is so normalised it’s not even recognised as such when it’s so blatantly obvious.

And two MPs (Tory) have refused to acknowledge it was racist. Tories seem intent on Islamophobia being their election strategy.

headstone · 25/02/2024 11:15

Apparently Lee Anderson wouldn’t have lost the whip if he had apologised. There is still denial among Tory MPs and Sunak that these comments were islamophobic. I wonder what an actual islamophobic comment would be? The worrying thing is that islamophobia is so normalised it’s not even recognised as such when it’s so blatantly obvious.

PeasfullPerson · 24/02/2024 18:51

Good to hear, pleased that this has happened, but still no comments on it from Rishi Sunak as far as I’m aware.

BelleHathor · 24/02/2024 11:17

@etmoiandme Thanks for this, the looks on the presenters faces are a doozy. The type of environment that they're trying to foster will make it unsafe for all minorities. I'm old enough to remember when minorities used to be chased and beaten up whilst being called the P. Word, N. word or the K. word. Reporting it to the police was useless as they often would repeat the same slurs, so minorities would often remain quiet.

PeasfullPerson · 24/02/2024 11:12

Insightful comments. His response or lack of one will tell us everything we need to know.

EasterIssland · 24/02/2024 11:05

MissyB1 · 24/02/2024 10:58

I think there’s no doubt that Rishi Sunak wants a divided Country (as do quite a few Tory politicians), it’s the old divide and rule tactic.

I think many politicians (not only Sunak) wants this

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MissyB1 · 24/02/2024 10:58

I think there’s no doubt that Rishi Sunak wants a divided Country (as do quite a few Tory politicians), it’s the old divide and rule tactic.

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BelleHathor · 24/02/2024 09:45

Let’s see what Rishi Sunak says, does he want a cohesive or divided society? And how will this impact voting?
Sunak won't say anything, this is a deliberate concerted effort to pivot the blame onto so called "Islamists".

They've lost the battle of Public opinion regarding the War in Gaza, so they've got to paint Palestinian supporters as extremists as an attempt to justify the plausible atrocities British weapons are assisting in committing.

Let's not even use the word Islamaphobic that's too soft, it's straight up racist and supremacist.
The Tories are betting on weaponising a group of disgruntled, "the country was so much better in my day...", Tommy Robinson supporting sorts. Culture wars at 1000%, Tory supporting social media accounts all talking about Islamists
The Safety of innocent Muslims be damned. It's an act of desperation and callousness that will backfire.

PeasfullPerson · 24/02/2024 09:21

Very disappointed to read of his behaviour this morning. This is exactly the kind of words that MPs should be avoiding. Please set us a better example.

Also, as Zarah Sultana said the protests represent a majority view.

And actually the police do appear to be doing their job. We can’t be a democracy only when it suits the people in power.

Let’s see what Rishi Sunak says, does he want a cohesive or divided society? And how will this impact voting?

Scirocco · 23/02/2024 23:40

SilverCatStripes · 23/02/2024 23:03

One persons’ “Islamophobia” is another persons’ “reasonable criticism of a religion which promotes regressive attitudes and behaviour” so it’s hard to understand what exactly are anti Muslim sentiments- do you actually mean anti Islam sentiments? And why is it such a problem for people to criticise a religion ?

For me, reasonable criticism and debate involves a degree of respect and decency, while seeking to refrain from personal attacks. For example, I would disagree with your opinion that Islam promotes regressive attitudes and behaviour, while simultaneously recognising your right to hold that opinion and your right as a human being to not be verbally or physically abused for holding that opinion. If we were to (on a thread about that) be discussing it, I would seek to try to understand where your opinion came from and hopefully be able to share my own perspectives.

Examples of what I think probably shouldn't be normalised as "reasonable criticism" (and should instead be classed as Islamophobia and Anti-Muslim hate) include but are not limited to...

Being spat at in the street.
Being physically assaulted.
Rape threats.
People threatening my living child and being happy about the fact that one of my children is dead.
Death threats.
People refusing to serve me in shops because "we don't serve terrorists".
Discrimination in healthcare.
Discrimination in employment.
Guilt by association, the near-constant absence of the same levels of consideration and empathy that other people are able to expect.
Trying to trick people into eating food that's contrary to their beliefs.
Lack of the respect afforded to other minority groups.

There are many micro-aggressions experienced by Muslim people every day. Every day, the media we see tells us that we are not welcome and not safe here. Every day, people tell us through their words, actions and inaction that we are not welcome and not safe. That's not "reasonable criticism".

SilverCatStripes · 23/02/2024 23:03

One persons’ “Islamophobia” is another persons’ “reasonable criticism of a religion which promotes regressive attitudes and behaviour” so it’s hard to understand what exactly are anti Muslim sentiments- do you actually mean anti Islam sentiments? And why is it such a problem for people to criticise a religion ?

PeasfullPerson · 23/02/2024 18:55

That’s appalling @Desertrose2023 Looks like different rules for different people.