Terrorist leader speaks out

Oh, so you accept that there have been people on MN justifying the Hamas attacks despite the fact that you've never seen them then?

No, you just denied they'd ever happened

You misquoted me. I didn't ask for examples of them.

I’m not a military strategist. But even so I can understand that using indiscriminate weapons in one of the most densely populated places on earth, will cause large civilian casualties. If Hamas were in Israel right now would you expect unguided bombs to be used in urban area in order to root them out? Would you see civilian death as collateral damage then?

it is clear that the Israeli authorities are killing too many civilians. I can’t even believe that people would debate that any more. The question that remains is why. Do they just not value Palestinian life? Or are they trying to get rid of the Palestinian’s altogether by pushing them out of Gaza?

You said that you'd never seen any posters justifying the Hamas attacks. That's because they've been reported and deleted because they are supporting terrorism.

Where the hell do you get that I'm supporting terrorism? I asked for examples of posters condemning the IDF.

Then maybe do a search for what posters were saying about not letting aid in a few months ago. I think you'll find what you're looking for there 👍🏻

Israel themselves have stated that they estimate circa 8,000 terrorists. Saying that they “may” have killed civilians who are family of terrorists or supporters of Hamas doesn’t remotely justify killing so many civilians, decimating Gaza’s crucial infrastructure, displacing most of the population and causing a humanitarian crisis.

Stemming the support of Hamas would involve showing the Palestinian’s a viable political alternative. The Israeli authorities are simply driving them into the arms of terrorists. Because this Israeli government don’t want a peaceful solution.

It’s not me saying that - that is the opinion of the US.

Their atrocities are detailed here every day. It shouldn't be that hard to find a pro-Israeli poster who condemns one of them. You shouldn't have to go through weeks and weeks of posts to find one. I'm not talking about illegal settlers (illegal settlers and Netanyahu are the go-to things that can be criticised about Israel it seems). I'm talking about the war crimes that are happening now, in Gaza.

@StarbucksSmarterSister yes, I'll repeat: repeatedly. I have no problem saying that Hamas has committed disgusting atrocities. Why can't you do the same for the IDF?

The poster was asking that I prove that pro-Israel posters have previously condemned Israel's actions. They think they've won because I'm obviously not going to go through thousands upon thousands of comments. It's all a bit weird.

Just because you've never seen it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Also, if this is true. Handover the hostages FFS.

Bullshit. Those comments feed into the 'proportionality' narrative. Hamas unleashed barbarism on innocent civilians. They get what they deserve (and surely expected). I am genuinely sorry for ALL civilians caught up in this. War is horrific.

I've reported a bunch that have been deleted.

Why would you want them to be allowed to stand? Supporting terrorism is illegal.

Yes, repeatedly.

Where have you done this? Feel free to provide examples.

What is your definition of a pro-Israel poster then? Because you'd assume it's someone who supports the actions of Israel rather than condemns them?

Some people seem to think that if you condemn the actions of the Israeli government then you are not pro Israel.

But then others think that if you merely think that Hamas is bad then you must definitely support Israel and you get called a shill and all sorts.

So what's your definition?

Repeatedly, really.? And I don't care what you find insulting any more than you care what people here think of you.

I mean, your request was about as reasonable as Hamas' ceasefire negotiations starting point - you were asking me to go through thousands upon thousands of comments to find ones that would satisfy you. I'm quite obviously not going to do that. Maybe do a search for "illegal settlers" on here and see what you can find 👍🏻 But I suspect you won't and that you'd rather just keep pretending your completely fabricated narrative about me is accurate. And that's your prerogative. Some people are happier when they have someone to hate and pick on, and I can't do anything to help you with that I'm afraid.

Haha. I thought as much.

No, that's ok. I don't feel the need to prove myself to a complete stranger on the internet. I've condemned various actions and statements from both the IDF and the Israeli government over the months and I'm far from the only pro-Israel poster on here to do so.

Of course that's the most desirable thing but if you do that, how do you fight an enemy that's embedded amongst the population in the way that Hamas is and destroy their infrastructure so they can't attack you again?

I mean I have no idea.

Yes, repeatedly.

You don't accept in your post that the IDF is committing atrocities. Given what they're doing at the moment saying they should "be more careful" is actually insulting. I'll keep waiting.

Most get reported and end up deleted. Perhaps they should be left so everyone can see what some posters are truly like.