Side by side placement of ukranian flag and palestinian flag

Yes unfortunately it’s not as simple as that seeing as, you know, the area has been run by terroists for so long… you know the actual people wanting to commmit actual genocide bit just throw around a term as propaganda

Indeed. Very complex. Some people think it's simple because they see it reduced to slogans. It isn't.

🙄🙄🙄🙄 oh what a small small world you must live in.

But I guess if someone looks and sounds a bit middle-eastern and objects to the Palestinian flag it’s a bit obtuse to not suspect they’re Israeli.
you haven’t been to the ME 🙈, that’s really not the sentiment , Arabs , including some Lebanese are anti Palestinians ,

its a complex region.

I haven’t seen a picture of him :) But I guess if someone looks and sounds a bit middle-eastern and objects to the Palestinian flag it’s a bit obtuse to not suspect they’re Israeli.

here are so many serious anti Semitic and Islamophobic cases out there , being thrown out of a theatre for not liking a flag is really not one of them,

I honestly can't believe what I'm reading. Yes, yes it is!

Being thrown out of a theatre is appalling. It’s not a microagression. It’s not someone accidentally slipping up. It’s direct persecution 💯💯💯💯
I agree , it’s unacceptable

This guy may well have looked or sounded Israeli
how do you look Israeli? He is a good looking guy ,
, looks like he could have been Lebanese or Greek , Persian ..etc

@DreamVortex Not at all. If he said something antisemitic then he deserves to be punished.

We do know! But regardless perhaps we can agree:

1. If they guy is shouting out racial slurs it’s ok to ask security to remove him.
2. If he simply says he doesn’t like the Palestinian flag, he should be left alone.

Could we agree there’s really no role for the mob?

I have a feeling if they'd flat out called him a filthy Jew or something you'd find an excuse.

Being thrown out of a theatre is appalling. It’s not a microagression. It’s not someone accidentally slipping up. It’s direct persecution. This guy may well have looked or sounded Israeli. I don’t know why you’re assuming the comedian had no idea.

We don’t know what was said.

Agree

This is what I said
And why was the issue just with one flag but not the other?
the guy was unreasonable to make a fuss about the Palestinian flag and not the Ukrainian flag and the comedian was so unreasonable to single them out for not standing and clapping.

there are so many serious anti Semitic and Islamophobic cases out there , being thrown out of a theatre for not liking a flag is really not one of them, it was not an Israeli flag , the audience did not say I’m Jewish and I’m Israeli , from everything the Guy said on both interviews is that he didn’t like the flag. That’s his words.
the comedian was out of order for throwing them out for sure and deserves to be banned.

I was just thinking the same thing: public abuse of Jews, Jews banned from public theatres...
Where did this wave of vicious anti semitism
come from? It broke out even before the Israelis fought back after the invasion.
The authorities must crack down on this before it gets any worse.

If someone said something antisemitic I would expect the guy on stage to ask security to remove him or her. I wouldn't expect the whole crowd to stand up and start chanting and intimidating.

But that wasn't an option here because the man in the crowd didn't say anything offensive. He just didn't stand up for another nations flag. Which is his right.

so I see this comedian is from NI and thinks that gives him some special insight into the Israel/Gaza situation.
He is comparing the IRA with Hamas. However bad the IRA were they didn't carry out depraved massacres of civilians, using sexual violence, or call for the abolition of mainland Britain.

I can't believe people aren't completely chilled by this story. What were the other audience members thinking, too busy signalling they are on the correct side to reflect on history.

You said that not clapping or cheering an Israeli or Palestinian flag is entitled and petulant. So does that apply to any flag by virtue of it being onstage?

The groups are "people who don't want to applaud the Palestinain flag" and "people who don't want to applaud the Israeli flag". Apparently one is fine and the other deserves to be abused and harrassed.

So in the same situation if the audience member had said something blatantly anti semitic and he was asked to leave and the audience joined in with chanting for him to get out, would you have disagreed with the audience?

Do you not believe in freedom of speech and democracy? Because if not we definitely won’t agree. In a democracy, we don’t let the mob decide what is right or wrong. Do you think it’s ok to let the mob decide?

You are using the word ‘genocide’ as a thought-terminating cliché.

Thats one view that not everyone agrees with. Unless you want to live in a dictatorship where @inkworks273 decides what opinions are permitted, you have to accept that different people will approve of different flags. What if I’m in charge of this dictatorship and I say people can be thrown out if they don’t stand for the Union Jack?

In a civilised society, we don’t support genocide.

@Dulra @ConnieCounter You are quite right re: Northern Ireland, and clearly it might cause issues there. I'm sorry, I was thinking of my objection to flag flying to show support for a side during wars abroad. I came to the conclusion that the only reasonable flag to fly in Britain is the British one. Otherwise we have internal conflict, and I deeply believe we must find ways to get along, even when we have different cultures living here whose countries of origin are hostile to each other. We could ban the British flag, but I think we need something to express a sense of unity and shared responsibility. There is no way to enforce this or anything I have said, of course.

Sadly no one is 100% safe anywhere, but obviously minorities in the UK are especially unsafe. Higher risk of Black and brown people being shot by the police (and if you are visibly Muslim this is five fold), Travellers largely don't have adequate access to running water/sewage etcetera etcetera.

If my relative was killed in Glastonbury I'd expect the government to find and punish the perpetrator/s, not kill 25,000, many of whom are children in a bid to "eliminate" the killers.