Side by side placement of ukranian flag and palestinian flag

@inkworks273

Hopefully we’ll get a better picture of exactly what happened soon.

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No we won't get a better picture of exactly what happened.

As @Shelaugh stated "any evidence gathered by him off social media is pretty unlikely to be accurate/impartial. Tbh I don’t think we need to get tied up on whether he’s an anti-Semite. His behaviour was awful regardless."

The only credible recollection of events still has to be that provided by the theatre.

@Auvergne63

"How can you compare what happened in a theatre and the Nuremberg rallies? This is not comparable. "

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By whipping up a crowd and encouraging them to intimidate either a Jewish person or a person sympathetic to Israel seems quite similar to some of the Nuremberg speeches.

You've already decided the man is a genocide supporter who deserved it.

You could be right. Isn’t it also possible that the theatre had a knee jerk reaction to some complaints without investigating them properly? Hopefully we’ll get a better picture of exactly what happened soon.

How can you compare what happened in a theatre and the Nuremberg rallies? This is not comparable.
How do you know the man is Israeli or Jewish? Did the comedian know the man's nationality or religion before making him leave?
I am not defending the comedian, I just don't understand how people came to their own conclusions, when they were not there. Is there an audio of the incident? Witnesses' statement? If not, it's just speculations on both sides of the debate.

The article you gave regarding what the theatre said showed that the theatre's comments were entirely based on hearsay. They quoted what the man in question saw, and a witness (which contradicted what the man said).

So as far as reliability is concerned, it's not really any better than the other people giving accounts/interviewed. Only once a lot of accounts are received is anyone going to be in a conclusion to draw conclusions.

What's pretty much universally acknowledged is why/how it started (standing ovation floor the show not for the flags) and that the comedian challenged the man in question and became abusive to him swearing and telling him to leave.

Most accounts don't marry with the man's that Jewish people were asked to leave - very few accounts mention that Jewishness was raised at all (the witness with the theatre said it wasn't mentioned). If more come forward saying it was, I'll obviously reassess that view.

@Grandmasswag

"Maybe a bit of a knee jerk reaction for the theatre? Who knows. I think they need to investigate properly and gather info from the plenty of eye whitenesses."

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Or does this really mean get a variety of different accounts of what happened from people about whom we have no evidence that they were actually there, all in order to confuse and cast doubt on the account of Soho Theatre (who we definitely know were there).

You can then finish off with some made up conspiracy theories about Soho Theatre being linked up to some Israeli investment fund etc.

Yeah I think any evidence gathered by him off social media is pretty unlikely to be accurate/impartial. Tbh I don’t think we need to get tied up on whether he’s an anti-Semite. His behaviour was awful regardless.

I disagree with the idea that racism/sexism is in the eye of the beholder but it’s funny how people who do buy into it (microagressions etc) make an exception for anti-semitism.

There is absolutely no evidence this poster even attended the show.

The most credible account of what actually happened must be from the Soho Theatre itself.

@BelleHathor

"Seeing as some of his shows are being cancelled, there's been a financial impact due to the allegations.

I imagine he has engaged a lawyer and is exploring his legal options. The unequivocal statement put out by the Soho Theatre could prove costly for them if the allegations are unfounded"

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Which is why the Soho Theatre would have thought long and hard about what they had put in their statement.

If there is an impact on his career and finances for his anti semitism then my sympathy is somewhat absent.

Actually it sounds more like he is trying to get sympathetic audience members to put out more favourable statements in support of him in order to save his career.

The most impartial source of information of the events that occurred i can think of is Soho Theatre themselves:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68290650.amp

Sounds like extreme male ego to get a two minutes hate going for audience members who don't give you a standing ovation. Really sick behaviour, no one should want to live in a society based on mob intimidation. But all of that's been said, I just wanted to add this. I didn't RTFT as it got repetitive, so apologies if similar has already been posted.

I didn't realise at first that there was no video of the incident, but found this when I went looking:

Can't bring myself to watch the whole thing, but immediately noticed a few interesting things about it:

1. His shows seem to be based around a lot of very hyped up audience interaction
2. Much of that interaction is quite uncomfortably boundary pushing. See 4.59, 10.52 and 12.30 for some moments that make my skin crawl (I think in one of these he returns to a woman he has previous singled out in a way that makes it extra creepy).
3. it's not at all funny to watch online, and I wouldn't want to go to something like this, but I can see why people are laughing. They're being bombarded by loud music, absurdity, the boundary-pushing, and participating in silly skits that mean overcoming social inhibitions. I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with that as a form of entertainment (I wouldn't call it comedy), but I can see why at a show of his there was a mob ready to join in with a hysterical scapegoating. It makes his actions worse that his whole thing is evoking those weird group emotions, that he then sicced that on a single person in the front row.

I guess maybe that’s the point? He’s against all types of war/occupation /killing of innocent people? I think I agree with you on the 1st sentence. It does seem that ‘recollections may vary’. Maybe a bit of a knee jerk reaction for the theatre? Who knows. I think they need to investigate properly and gather info from the plenty of eye whitenesses.

I think anyone who goes to a "surrealist dadaesque non-verbal comedy session" deserves whatever they get - if only PC could have shut up for a bit longer, he wouldn't be in all this trouble.

Just to be clear, he wasn't calling for a ceasefire in Ukraine? I wonder why, given his lived experiences in Belfast? And PC will know that in general the Russians, Iranians and Chinese are backing Hamas, while the West (including Ukraine, but excluding Ireland) are backing Israel, so it is a bit odd to put the flags together.

Seeing as some of his shows are being cancelled, there's been a financial impact due to the allegations.

I imagine he has engaged a lawyer and is exploring his legal options. The unequivocal statement put out by the Soho Theatre could prove costly for them if the allegations are unfounded.

I agree. If it turns out that the comedian is in the wrong then he should face consequences. I just think it is important to have all the facts before piling on.

Understandable. I would imagine you are pumped up on adrenaline when you are performing like that so maybe he doesn't even trust his own version of events. I think it's important for everyone to have a fair hearing in this situation, would hate to see someone lose their career without proper scrutiny of what exactly happened

I hope people can get to the bottom of this.

The comedian has also put out a request for audience members who were there that night to send eye witness statements of what they saw. Sounds like he is trying to gather evidence to dispute the man's version of events.

This was posted 6 hours ago on Paul Curries Instagram page by someone who attended the show...

@inkworks273 how does Paul Currie promote peace and inclusivity by haranguing an audience member and throwing them out? I’m sorry, I just don’t buy this. It doesn’t match any of the other accounts so far.

@DreamVortex Apologies, it's not blurry on my phone but has become blurry once uploaded. If you are interested in reading it you can find it on @paulcurriecomedian on Instagram. It's on his stories.

Do you have something that's readable instead of a blurry screenshot of an instagram story?

Sorry I attached the wrong photo to the post. Here is the correct one.

An eye witness account from an audience member who was in the front row during the incident.

They claim that the man made "overtly racist" statements including saying "we hate that flag and we hate you for using it"

According to this audience member this is what prompted the comedian to tell the man to leave.