Side by side placement of ukranian flag and palestinian flag

My point was that if he is a genocide supporter I would have a lot less sympathy for him than if he was just an innocent bystander who was singled out for being Jewish.

We don't have all the information so I'm waiting until we have a clearer picture. I don't think that is unreasonable,

@inkworks273 predictable response.

You already referred to him as a 'genocide supporter' so your bias is clear. Then backtracked and asked for evidence.

@stomachamelon "Stop making excuses for the indefensible."

Oh the irony.

Those who are sick of seeing those who speak out against what's happening being punished for doing so.

@inkworks273 is that what happened? Bit of a reach do you not think? Somewhat romantic view of a bully isolating a member of his audience. He could have just ignored him and wound the evening up? Happy that most supported his stance.

Even if that man was just a member of the public he was harassed and harangued by that 'comedian'

The audience member claimed Currie told the man: “Get out of my show. Get the fuck out of here. Fuck off, get the fuck out of here.” (The guardian)

Stop making excuses for the indefensible.

@Fussandmisery Did he bully his audience member or was he responding to the audience members rude comments? The jury's still out on that one.

You're right though. Intentional or not he probably will gain a lot more fans. People who will be sympathetic to his pro Palestine, anti war stance. Those who are sick of seeing those who speak out against what's happening being punished for doing so.

Yeah but like a pp said a few days ago no-one had heard of this guy. Now not only his name more well known he can wave his Edge Lord credentials about. It is not unusual for a comedian to get into trouble for causing offence (Billy Connolly, Frankie Boyle and Russell Brand spring to mind. There are probably others) though I like to think most are not so cynical about it or dumb enough to bully their own audience.

Today, he's being cancelled. Tomorrow, a big show about being cancelled and how edgy he is.

I'd say having your shows cancelled and your livelihood threatened seems like pretty bad publicity.
Karma's a bitch, isn't it?

I'd say having your shows cancelled and your livelihood threatened seems like pretty bad publicity.

True.

This. A few days ago, probably none of us would have known this guy's name and now he's all over the place. He'll have used those flags for a reaction. The type of reaction and who it hurts probably aren't as important as the attention it's generated for him.

In your opinion.

Oh bless you. 20 years teaching primary well done.
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
I'm a scientist.
If you are, you should apply the rigorous scientific method and critical thinking before you form an opinion. Your post shows that you don't.

Oh bless you. 20 years teaching primary well done.
sorry to dash your hopes, if you've seen me on Mumsnet you know I'm a scientist.

Bristling? Nope. I am always astounded by the fact that some people are so ignorant of the difference between fact/opinion, a concept easily understood by primary school children ( 20 years in teaching as taught me that).
Facts are facts. Argue with them as much as you want. They won't change.
I sincerely hope you are not a scientist though.
Another concept you appear not to understand, in this context: truth. But this is not the thread to discuss it.

I can almost feel you bristling.

Is Mark Twain the arbiter of facts? Or are you?
Your quote is a catchy soundbite but is it an unarguable truth?

You don't understand what a fact is, do you? Please look up the definition.
Facts are not debatable, only interpretations of said facts.
As Mark Twain said, "get your facts first, then distort them as you ,please" or "“I am not one of those who in expressing opinions confine themselves to facts.”

Or merely a subjective,speculative description rather objective fact.

Facts are tricky things aren't they? so debatable.

The sky is blue...but only on a sunny day, sometimes it's grey, yellow, pink etc.
Grass is green...but not in the middle of a drought.

Let's see if a caution or a charge or an action in court results...

Still not comparable because you present your opinion as fact. Unless you were there or you have a video recording of the event, you really cannot assume anything.

Good point about Russia. I live near the Russian embassy in Dublin and all the houses near it have Ukrainian flags flying in their gardens, even the local council have Ukrainian flags on all the lampposts all along the road the embassy is on. There is a 24 protest opposite the embassy, been there for months. I can only imagine the outrage if similar was done outside the Israeli embassy with Palestinian flags. In saying that the Israeli ambassador to Ireland has already said we are antiemetic

This is what I’m wondering. Is this another example of being being anti Israel being conflated with antisemitism? The comedian wouldn’t have know that the man was Israeli/Jewish. It does seem that most accounts have the man saying something disparaging about the flag so I’m inclined to believe it. Supposing a Russian had said something unfavourable about the Ukrainian flag presented, would they have been told to get out? I think at this sort of show (and I don’t get it at all) they most likely would, given the comic is clearly very anti war. I strongly suspect that anyone who said anything that doesn’t align with his political views would probably receive the same treatment. I just don’t think the press would care and I think the theatre would have put out some statement about ‘art tackling uncomfortable topics blablabla’. I mean we’ve literally banned Russians from entering sports sporting events etc. It’s not their personal faults their leader is a psychopath. If we were allied with Israel presumably there would be similar sanctions? Would that be antisemitic?

Yeah they would.

Why?
They are only basing what was said on witness accounts at well. Which contradicted each other.

Also he (the comedian) may be looking for attention. They say there’s no such thing as bad publicity😕

I think it depends what he actually said and whether he knew the person he was talking to was Israeli/Jewish. But he acted like a complete arse either way.