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statsfun · 17/07/2024 06:35

anotherlevel · 27/05/2024 08:19

@10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne

They're so trustworthy, we should just take them at their word.

From the X link: " [HQ] turned into a battlefield & now flattened"

How exactly did it turn into a battlefield when filled only with innocent administrative employees?

A battlefield requires 2 sides of combatants.

EasterIssland · 16/07/2024 10:00

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 16/07/2024 09:37

I wonder if UNRWA is going to sue the IDF/Israel? The IDF/Israel has assassinated and tortured their employees, shot up their aid trucks, bombed their aid distribution centres, bombed their schools and now they have bombed their HQ! Israeli's are suing UNRWA for involvement in October 7 despite there being ZERO evidence, why can't UNRWA sue the IDF/Israel right back after everything they have done?!

I guess Israel will say “we are self defending ourselves, this is what happens in a war. Shit happens”

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10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 16/07/2024 09:37

EasterIssland · 15/07/2024 19:21

I wonder if UNRWA is going to sue the IDF/Israel? The IDF/Israel has assassinated and tortured their employees, shot up their aid trucks, bombed their aid distribution centres, bombed their schools and now they have bombed their HQ! Israeli's are suing UNRWA for involvement in October 7 despite there being ZERO evidence, why can't UNRWA sue the IDF/Israel right back after everything they have done?!

ConnieCounter · 15/07/2024 19:36

EasterIssland · 15/07/2024 19:21

Fuckers. And they're clearly targeting UNWRA schools. It's absolutely scandalous. And barbaric.

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anotherlevel · 08/07/2024 10:15

Israeli troops launch an attack on UNWRAs headquarters

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EasterIssland · 01/06/2024 08:29

https://english.wafa.ps/Pages/Details/144639

EU expresses deep concern over Israeli Knesset’s discussions on designating UNRWA as a terrorist organization

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10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 27/05/2024 11:02

anotherlevel · 27/05/2024 08:19

@10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne

They're so trustworthy, we should just take them at their word.

Yep. That's what Israel expects. It's ridiculous. 🙁

anotherlevel · 27/05/2024 08:19

@10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne

They're so trustworthy, we should just take them at their word.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 27/05/2024 00:52

anotherlevel · 26/05/2024 23:22

@10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne

"Israel has a habit of doing this to relief organisations it doesn't like. They designated Defence for Children as a terrorist organisation for investigating the rape of a 13 year old Palestinian boy."

They sure do.

And of course they do this without any evidence of involvement in terrorism from these organisations.

anotherlevel · 26/05/2024 23:22

@10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne

"Israel has a habit of doing this to relief organisations it doesn't like. They designated Defence for Children as a terrorist organisation for investigating the rape of a 13 year old Palestinian boy."

They sure do.

anotherlevel · 26/05/2024 23:21

ConnieCounter · 26/05/2024 22:06

The IDF are the only terror organisation in that equation. The scenes from Rafah are worse than anyone's worst nightmare.

Agreed.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 26/05/2024 22:23

anotherlevel · 26/05/2024 21:41

TEL AVIV, Sunday, May 26, 2024 (WAFA) - The Israeli Knesset's so-called Ministerial Committee for Legislation today approved draft bills that aim to sever relations between Israel and the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA), and designate it as a 'terrorist organization'.2 hours ago

english.wafa.ps › Details
Knesset's Ministerial Committee for Legislation approves draft bills ...

Israel have now bombed an UNWRA centre for the displaced in Rafah. The scenes that are coming out of Rafah are frightening and something worse than a horror movie.

Israel has a habit of doing this to relief organisations it doesn't like. They designated Defence for Children as a terrorist organisation for investigating the rape of a 13 year old Palestinian boy.

https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1731796063265177646

x.com

https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1731796063265177646

ConnieCounter · 26/05/2024 22:06

The IDF are the only terror organisation in that equation. The scenes from Rafah are worse than anyone's worst nightmare.

anotherlevel · 26/05/2024 21:41

TEL AVIV, Sunday, May 26, 2024 (WAFA) - The Israeli Knesset's so-called Ministerial Committee for Legislation today approved draft bills that aim to sever relations between Israel and the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA), and designate it as a 'terrorist organization'.2 hours ago

english.wafa.ps › Details
Knesset's Ministerial Committee for Legislation approves draft bills ...

Israel have now bombed an UNWRA centre for the displaced in Rafah. The scenes that are coming out of Rafah are frightening and something worse than a horror movie.

Dulra · 20/05/2024 11:56

Was searching for something online and cane across this UN press release on UNWRA, an interesting read

press.un.org/en/2024/sc15668.doc.htm

PeasfullPerson · 13/05/2024 21:36

Alwayslookonthe · 12/05/2024 09:49

If there is evidence the Israeli citizens started the fire, they should be prosecuted for criminal damage. Protests should not include criminal action, in Israel, the UK, the US or anywhere else in the world.
In the UK Palestine activists smashed a lorry into a drone factory in Leicester and ripped apart its roof a few days ago. All criminal action should be condemned.

Any comment on UNWRA registering 5.9 million refugees, the majority of whom are not refugees on account of being either residents of Israel or a citizen of another country?

You seem to have a lot of knowledge regarding UNWRA. Can I please ask for clarification these people are actually recorded as refugees and not registered without receiving refuge status, so that they can receive UNWRA services under their other eligible groups?

Also, even if they are registered as refuges, I’m not sure your comparisons are with WW2 are particularly relevant. It’s a very different scenario.

Why do you think refugee status is causing conflict? How much weight do you think this factor has, when also considering things like the occupation and inhumane treatment of the people of Palestine, by Israel?

Do you believe that those who live in Palestine, particularly Gaza, during this latest offensive should in the future registered under a special group, so that if they survive they can at some point in the future be eligible for restorative action and support?

Link to UNWRA registration and eligibility document for anyone who would like to read it …

https://www.unrwa.org/sites/default/files/2010011995652.pdf

PS I don’t support violent action.

Alwayslookonthe · 12/05/2024 10:40

Scirocco · 12/05/2024 09:57

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-68978985

This drone factory?

The van damaged a gate and some people climbed onto the building.

They've been arrested and charged with criminal damage and public order offences.

It's illegal and should not be supported. It's hardly smashing a lorry into a building and ripping its roof apart, though.

Members of the action group smashed a lorry through the fences around the site, in Leicestershire's Meridian Business Park, in Braunstone Town, Palestine Action said. Others in the group have scaled the building and are currently occupying the roof.
Tools have been used to break through the roof, Palestine Action said. It added that this was done to “expose the contents inside the murder factory”.

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/local-news/palestine-supporters-smash-through-drone-9270651

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Scirocco · 12/05/2024 09:57

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-68978985

This drone factory?

The van damaged a gate and some people climbed onto the building.

They've been arrested and charged with criminal damage and public order offences.

It's illegal and should not be supported. It's hardly smashing a lorry into a building and ripping its roof apart, though.

UAV Tactical Systems

Arrests after gates damaged at drone factory protest

Seven people are detained after a van damages gates and protesters climb onto the factory roof.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-68978985

Alwayslookonthe · 12/05/2024 09:49

PeasfullPerson · 10/05/2024 13:36

Any thoughts on the fire?

Are you implying this sort of extreme act is justified?

If there is evidence the Israeli citizens started the fire, they should be prosecuted for criminal damage. Protests should not include criminal action, in Israel, the UK, the US or anywhere else in the world.
In the UK Palestine activists smashed a lorry into a drone factory in Leicester and ripped apart its roof a few days ago. All criminal action should be condemned.

Any comment on UNWRA registering 5.9 million refugees, the majority of whom are not refugees on account of being either residents of Israel or a citizen of another country?

Kindatired · 10/05/2024 13:42

Ah yes, the only democracy in the Middle East, where the rule of law is applied selectively or not at all when it comes to settler violence

No-one will notice anyway as the press are suppressed, either voluntarily or involuntarily.

PeasfullPerson · 10/05/2024 13:36

Alwayslookonthe · 10/05/2024 08:29

Why is UNWRA a problem in East Jerusalem?
Let’s explore why UNWRA are in East Jerusalem.

After the six day war Israel effectively annexed East Jerusalem and its surroundings, applying law and administration to these areas. Among the annexed Palestinian villages was Shuafat refugee camp. As a result, Shuafat’s residents effectively fulfilled their demand of return.

Now as legal residents of Israel they have the right to settle anywhere they want in the country, including the town they or their ancestors came from. Furthermore, they can apply for citizenship on the grounds of proving their desire “to live at peace with their neighbours” the complete fulfilment of the Palestinians own extreme interpretation of Resolution 194.

The refugees who have become residents of Israel have acquired in practice the ability to return. Given this, UNWRA could have announced that it had no more business within the boundaries of Jerusalem and refused to register the refugees in East Jerusalem and their tens of thousands of descendants as refugees.

Yet UNWRA made no such announcement and the inhabitants of Shuafat refugee camp, who for the most part were born after 1948 and after 1967 annexation of Jerusalem, remain registered Palestinian refugees.

So…
UNRWA registers residents of Israel as refugees

UNWRA registers 2.2 million Jordanian citizens as refugees

UNWRA registers Palestinians who live in the area they call Palestine and seek recognition of, as refugees

UNWRA has recently been in the news for allegedly selling aid in Gaza. All ‘lies’ of course. Shush…🤫

UNWRA has recently advised that Palestinians in Gaza can’t afford to buy the free aid that is in Gaza. Again, shush… 🤫

UNWRA needs to be defunded/dismantled, not because UNWRA employees may have been stealing aid to sell on to their fellow Gazans, not because some UNWRA employees may have participated in the massacre on October 7th, but because UNWRA has registered millions of people as refugees, over the decades, who do not meet the basic criteria applied to EVERY other group of refugees in the world.

Had the rest of the world been recognised as refugees in the same way as UNWRA does for the Palestinians the (relative) peace that has marked much of the world since WW2 would have been replaced by constant war.

Any thoughts on the fire?

Are you implying this sort of extreme act is justified?

Alwayslookonthe · 10/05/2024 09:06

EasterIssland · 10/05/2024 08:35

After the six day war Israel effectively annexed East Jerusalem and its surroundings, applying law and administration to these areas.

Under international law, East Jerusalem is considered a part of the West Bank and, therefore, of the Palestinian territories

For the purposes of return it does not matter whether one thinks that Israel’s annexation of East Jerusalem and the surrounding areas are legitimate or not. The refugees of Shuafat - legal residents of Israel - have the right to settle anywhere they want to in the country, including the town or village their ancestors came from. They have returned! However according to UNWRA they are still refugees.

Scirocco · 10/05/2024 08:35

@Alwayslookonthe and do any of those reported concerns justify attempts to set their headquarters on fire?

I didn't realise it was ok to commit arson if it's against people and organisations with which one disagrees.