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Standing up for Israel

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Fizzadora · 07/02/2024 11:41

So, they have got to MN now too.
I just managed to read the previous post before it got deleted for being inflammatory. Not to me it wasn't but then I don't support terrorists.
Many, many people do stand for Israel and not for Hamas (and by definition their supporters; you know who you are).

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niceandnew · 12/02/2024 10:06

anotherlevel · 12/02/2024 09:53

@niceandnew Whilst I am pleased that 2 hostages have been rescued, it also meant that at least 67 Palestinians were killed in the air strike and sea attacks.

Which is why you should be protesting for Hamas to ceasefire. The high civilian count is on them. They are the ones who are hiding behind refugee camps and hospitals. They are the ones who are incriminating the Gazan people by using them as human shields in incredibly populated urban warfare.

I'm not well versed in the nuances of international law but, surely if a refugee camp is being used to hide frail grandpa war hostages then it is no longer protected under humanitarian law. The ones who broke that humanitarian law was Hamas. Protest against them. Boycott them. March against them. They are out-rightly causing Gazan civilians to be put in the crosshairs of this violence.

stomachameleon · 12/02/2024 09:54

@anotherlevel
One minute Netanyahu doesn't care about the hostages.
Then he does and he is not clinical enough.
Sounds like the hostages were in normal family homes?

anotherlevel · 12/02/2024 09:53

@niceandnew Whilst I am pleased that 2 hostages have been rescued, it also meant that at least 67 Palestinians were killed in the air strike and sea attacks.

anotherlevel · 12/02/2024 09:45

stomachameleon · 12/02/2024 04:35

Such amazing news...

Great news to hear.

stomachameleon · 12/02/2024 09:39

@cupcakesarelife that's laughable and there is much wrong with your reply I don't know where to start.
There is plenty that can and should be reported on these threads that veers into supporting a terrorist organisation (which is not allowed in this country) no case has been concluded yet and Israel is a legitimate government.
If people don't want to discuss 'supporting Israel' then they would be wise to stay off the thread.

niceandnew · 12/02/2024 09:38

stomachameleon · 12/02/2024 04:35

Such amazing news...

Amazing news!

And for those posters who were protesting here on MN against Rafah being evacuated. This is why Rafah refugee camp needs to be evacuated. Because Hamas terrorists have hidden civilian hostages there. Not because Israel are barbaric, or out to do evil and to commit genocide as you are so eager to believe.
Rather, Israel have asked for an evacuation of a refugee camp because Hamas have hidden a 60 and 70 year old Israeli hostage amongst the refugees in Rafah.
So please stop rolling your eyes when we tell you that Hamas are using the Gazans as human shields.

stomachameleon · 12/02/2024 09:26

@Limeandsodaontherocks I agree with that.

Limeandsodaontherocks · 12/02/2024 09:15

BackandForthRoundandRound · 12/02/2024 07:05

Exactly.... unsure as to why some cannot understand this.

There are some Palestinian posters on here who don’t demonise Israelis and show some understanding for the terrible situation they are also in.
And then there are posters who just wade in with a ton of fuel to throw on the fire .

stomachameleon · 12/02/2024 08:26

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Further dehumanising of Israelis.

Ladyjanegreysketle · 12/02/2024 08:14

stomachameleon · 12/02/2024 04:35

Such amazing news...

Thanks for posting that - brilliant news !!

BackandForthRoundandRound · 12/02/2024 07:20

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3NpBX2tUYd/?igsh=Z3duMXB3ZGUzcWMw In the West Bank we have Israeli Occupation Members smashing up shops ~ happily smiling away while doing so.

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3NpBX2tUYd?igsh=Z3duMXB3ZGUzcWMw

BackandForthRoundandRound · 12/02/2024 07:05

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Exactly.... unsure as to why some cannot understand this.

BackandForthRoundandRound · 12/02/2024 07:02

inkworks273 · 12/02/2024 04:22

@1dayatatime I still don't get what point you're trying to make. How are Palestinians in the West Bank supposed to "see an alternative path to hate and terrorism by making the West Bank a stable and economic success"?

Have they just to ignore the daily abuse they suffer? Just roll over and accept being thrown out of their homes in the name of seeing an "alternative path to hate?"

Yep, that seems to be what some are expecting...

Bizarre to put it mildly.

BackandForthRoundandRound · 12/02/2024 07:01

cupcakesarelife · 11/02/2024 21:45

I have reported this thread and OP/user for supporting war crimes by Israel . There is no reason or justification for murdering innocent people. Accusing people of supporting Hamas is ridiculous just because they are calling to attention the hypocrisy to murder by Israel. MN need to deal with these users and acknowledge that international courts have concluded that Israel is and has been committing war crimes.

Agree completely

quantumbutterfly · 12/02/2024 04:47

Wonderful news for their families.

stomachameleon · 12/02/2024 04:35

Such amazing news...

Standing up for Israel
inkworks273 · 12/02/2024 04:22

@1dayatatime I still don't get what point you're trying to make. How are Palestinians in the West Bank supposed to "see an alternative path to hate and terrorism by making the West Bank a stable and economic success"?

Have they just to ignore the daily abuse they suffer? Just roll over and accept being thrown out of their homes in the name of seeing an "alternative path to hate?"

1dayatatime · 12/02/2024 00:19

@Limeandsodaontherocks
@inkworks273

"I said that in response to a pp who said that Palestinians in the West Bank had to stop hating. My point being that if they are to stop hating then maybe Israel needs to stop the illegal settlements. Do you agree"

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Lets get some facts here: I was the PP who posted:

"I would also add that it also important for Palestinian to see an alternative path to hate and terrorism by making the West Bank a stable and economic success."

To which you responded:

"Ah yes. If only the Palestinians would stop hating the people throwing them out of their homes and building settlements on their land."

After being criticised by several others posters for your response you now try and clearly and deliberately misrepresent my post as somehow blaming the "hate of the West Bank Palestinians", probably because you know you are wrong and hoped that no one would bother to scroll back to the "pp" you referred to.

It is very clear that what I posted in no way blames the West Bank Palestinians, I simply stated that an economically successful and stable West Bank is essential to provide an alternative future to hate and terrorism.

I will continue to correct any further and deliberate attempts to misrepresent my posts.

stomachameleon · 11/02/2024 23:20

@niceandnew what did you expect? Hmm

niceandnew · 11/02/2024 23:10

ProfessorPipsqueak · 11/02/2024 22:58

I'm sorry my post hurt your feelings. I'm not going to pull apart your post because you are as welcome to your view as I am. I hope Israel agree to a permanent ceasefire and to end their illegal occupation and blockade soon so you and your family can live in peace.

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Israel ending their "blockade" and "occupation" will do nothing for the security of Israel. Until Hamas are out of power Israeli families like @EllaDisenchanted will not be able to live in peace.
You hoping of Israel to permanently ceasefire without mentioning Hamas or the return of the hostages shows you are anything but sorry. Shameful.

ProfessorPipsqueak · 11/02/2024 22:58

EllaDisenchanted · 11/02/2024 21:59

Privileged?! I can't believe what I am reading here. Do you think we in Israel are happy about this war? Do you think we are so monstrous we would have any other reaction to Hind's death than sadness?? Yes, I am angry at Hamas. Yes, I fucking want them gone. I want them never ever to be in a position to be able to attempt anything remotely like October 7th again. I want our hostages home. But trust me when I say I and NO-ONE I know is happy to hear about the deaths of innocents. War is vile and it is sickening and it is painful.

How much have you demonised us that you could honestly sit and write "when do Palestinians get to 'eliminate' the people that they want?" - well they got that chance on October 7th, and again in the shooting attack in Jerusalem in November at a bus-stop my husband and niece use, where that oh so dangerous pregnant teacher died, and again recently in Raanana, when 79 year old Edna Blustein was murdered, and a load of schoolchildren injured. Oh and they tried another stabbing attack again today in Jerusalem. If that had been successful, would that mean we are a bit less privileged? If they hadn't evacuated 80,000 people up north and that rocket barrage on thursday and friday had killed people, would that be better? I felt really privileged last week when my young son went to a funeral instead of school, for his headmaster's son. Attack after attack is sent at civilians, the rockets aim for our cities. The "people [Hamas] want to eliminate" are all of us. My 4 year old knows the position to assume if we are caught outside in a siren and I know I would lie on top of her.

Support the Palestinians, stand up for what you believe in - I get it, I really really do, but please take one minute to remember that Israelis are people too, and this kind of rhetoric hurts.

I'm sorry my post hurt your feelings. I'm not going to pull apart your post because you are as welcome to your view as I am. I hope Israel agree to a permanent ceasefire and to end their illegal occupation and blockade soon so you and your family can live in peace.

Limeandsodaontherocks · 11/02/2024 22:50

EllaDisenchanted · 11/02/2024 21:59

Privileged?! I can't believe what I am reading here. Do you think we in Israel are happy about this war? Do you think we are so monstrous we would have any other reaction to Hind's death than sadness?? Yes, I am angry at Hamas. Yes, I fucking want them gone. I want them never ever to be in a position to be able to attempt anything remotely like October 7th again. I want our hostages home. But trust me when I say I and NO-ONE I know is happy to hear about the deaths of innocents. War is vile and it is sickening and it is painful.

How much have you demonised us that you could honestly sit and write "when do Palestinians get to 'eliminate' the people that they want?" - well they got that chance on October 7th, and again in the shooting attack in Jerusalem in November at a bus-stop my husband and niece use, where that oh so dangerous pregnant teacher died, and again recently in Raanana, when 79 year old Edna Blustein was murdered, and a load of schoolchildren injured. Oh and they tried another stabbing attack again today in Jerusalem. If that had been successful, would that mean we are a bit less privileged? If they hadn't evacuated 80,000 people up north and that rocket barrage on thursday and friday had killed people, would that be better? I felt really privileged last week when my young son went to a funeral instead of school, for his headmaster's son. Attack after attack is sent at civilians, the rockets aim for our cities. The "people [Hamas] want to eliminate" are all of us. My 4 year old knows the position to assume if we are caught outside in a siren and I know I would lie on top of her.

Support the Palestinians, stand up for what you believe in - I get it, I really really do, but please take one minute to remember that Israelis are people too, and this kind of rhetoric hurts.

I am so sorry for what you’re going through.
Thank you for your post - it must have been painful to write but it’s important for those of us far away from the conflict to hear

stomachameleon · 11/02/2024 22:44

@EllaDisenchanted well said.

Scirocco · 11/02/2024 22:38

@EllaDisenchanted no child should have to know that, and it's a horrible thing that around the world, children who should be able to feel safe and not have to worry about anything more than whether they've finished their homework, have to learn about how to respond in a rocket attack, active shooter situation, etc.

I hope and your family stay safe.