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Fizzadora · 2024-02-07T11:41:30+00:00

So, they have got to MN now too. I just managed to read the previous post before it got deleted for being inflammatory. Not to me it wasn't but then I don't support terrorists. Many, many people do stand for Israel and not for Hamas (and by definition their supporters; you know who you are).

quantumbutterfly · 27/02/2024 14:52

LilaDidIt · 27/02/2024 14:44

Does Netanyahu speak for the people of Israel?

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More so than the antizionists of JVP I think, but you should ask them, if you can still have a dialogue with after calling them genocidal.

VeniceTheMenace · 27/02/2024 14:51

Fussandmisery · 27/02/2024 09:07

Also, anyone else note how it's only ever the anti-Israel posters who refer to Palestinians as "subhuman" and say they're not worth as much as Israelis?
No, can’t say I have. Why would pro Palestinians believe Palestinians are worth less than Israelis?

I know! People throw out this kind of comment without thinking about what they are saying!

Also, anyone else note how it's only ever the anti-Israel posters who refer to Palestinians as "subhuman" and say they're not worth as much as Israelis? Constantly putting words in people's mouths. Maybe they're projecting?

Projecting? In what way?! People should not use words they don’t understand.

quantumbutterfly · 27/02/2024 14:49

LilaDidIt · 27/02/2024 14:42

Wow, that's an extreme judgement to make. Not sure how you arrived at that conclusion, but I suspect many would disagree with you.

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Your view of extreme needs scaling.

LilaDidIt · 27/02/2024 14:44

quantumbutterfly · 27/02/2024 14:41

They certainly do. Do you think they speak for the people of Israel?

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Does Netanyahu speak for the people of Israel?

LilaDidIt · 27/02/2024 14:42

quantumbutterfly · 27/02/2024 14:34

And just as many are anti-russian and anti-american and love the fact they can hide behind their acceptable ant-trump, anti-putin righteousness.

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Wow, that's an extreme judgement to make. Not sure how you arrived at that conclusion, but I suspect many would disagree with you.

quantumbutterfly · 27/02/2024 14:41

Mercurial123 · 27/02/2024 14:37

They explain their view

www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/resource/zionism/

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They certainly do. Do you think they speak for the people of Israel?

Mercurial123 · 27/02/2024 14:37

quantumbutterfly · 27/02/2024 14:30

Doesn't anti-zionist mean that you don't believe the state of Israel should exist?

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They explain their view

www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/resource/zionism/

quantumbutterfly · 27/02/2024 14:34

LilaDidIt · 27/02/2024 14:09

People criticise Trump all the time without being labelled anti-American. People criticise the actions of Putin without being accused of calling for the destruction of Russia. But criticise Israel's genocide and you are accused of being a self-hating Jew or an antisemite. It's absurd.

And just as many are anti-russian and anti-american and love the fact they can hide behind their acceptable ant-trump, anti-putin righteousness.

quantumbutterfly · 27/02/2024 14:30

Mercurial123 · 27/02/2024 14:18

I have respect for Jewish Voice for Peace

Doesn't anti-zionist mean that you don't believe the state of Israel should exist?

quantumbutterfly · 27/02/2024 14:28

Vaccances · 27/02/2024 14:03

You ve hit the nail on the head.

No one can criticise Israel in anyway, they can do as they wish, if the death toll went to 500k, the argument would still be "but Hamas"

As i said up thread, i think one day people will look back on this episode and say "why did we allow this to happen"

Standing up for Israel can also mean being a critical friend too.

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So you are a friend of Israel?

Mercurial123 · 27/02/2024 14:24

And this

Mercurial123 · 27/02/2024 14:18

I have respect for Jewish Voice for Peace

ConnieCounter · 27/02/2024 14:17

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LilaDidIt · 27/02/2024 14:09

People criticise Trump all the time without being labelled anti-American. People criticise the actions of Putin without being accused of calling for the destruction of Russia. But criticise Israel's genocide and you are accused of being a self-hating Jew or an antisemite. It's absurd.

Vaccances · 27/02/2024 14:03

quantumbutterfly · 27/02/2024 13:53

Standing up for Israel is the title of the thread, there are many more that could be titled 'lets find everything we can to criticise Israel because they and the Jewish diaspora aren't hurt or vulnerable in any way.'

You ve hit the nail on the head.

No one can criticise Israel in anyway, they can do as they wish, if the death toll went to 500k, the argument would still be "but Hamas"

As i said up thread, i think one day people will look back on this episode and say "why did we allow this to happen"

Standing up for Israel can also mean being a critical friend too.

quantumbutterfly · 27/02/2024 13:53

Standing up for Israel is the title of the thread, there are many more that could be titled 'lets find everything we can to criticise Israel because they and the Jewish diaspora aren't hurt or vulnerable in any way.'

Fussandmisery · 27/02/2024 13:13

quantumbutterfly · 27/02/2024 11:47

Goodness he sounds like a bond villain monologuing his master plan.

Still standing with Israel.

🙄

stomachamelon · 27/02/2024 12:31

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LilaDidIt · 27/02/2024 12:05

quantumbutterfly · 27/02/2024 11:47

Goodness he sounds like a bond villain monologuing his master plan.

Still standing with Israel.

His complete plan is in the link so you can start considering how you'll try to spin it to make Israel look really moral as it all unfolds.

Efacsen · 27/02/2024 12:03

quantumbutterfly · 27/02/2024 11:59

An appropriate one for a trite phrase I thought.

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You're right could never compete with you on that score

quantumbutterfly · 27/02/2024 11:59

Efacsen · 27/02/2024 11:53

That's a bit of a sad response

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An appropriate one for a trite phrase I thought.

quantumbutterfly · 27/02/2024 11:57

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😂hilarious. Should we invite you? You're arguements are so persuasive he's bound to compromise.

Efacsen · 27/02/2024 11:53

quantumbutterfly · 27/02/2024 11:52

And yet double negatives are positive.

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That's a bit of a sad response

quantumbutterfly · 27/02/2024 11:52

Efacsen · 27/02/2024 09:04

Deliberately starving 2,3 million innocent people - let alone all the other stuff

Ever heard the expression 2 wrongs don't make a right?

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And yet double negatives are positive.

Efacsen · 27/02/2024 11:51

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