Standing up for Israel

It's a conversation (not a lecture) about how best to ensure the rights of minority groups.

I did. Seems to be her lecturing a jewish man about anti-Semitism, and how israel shouldn't exist and how Jewish people are just like the Europeans who killed Native Americans.

No that's not what she's saying at all. Feel free to watch it and find out (or not).

So what's she saying, that there shouldn't be a Jewish state because racism exists in the US?

Courage calls to courage .

This was on someone I knows page but might be helpful.

@EllaDisenchanted yes it does 😊

If by peace you mean ceasefire that's fabulous news. The more people we have on board in favour of that endeavour the better for sure.

Edit: nevermind I just read your denials of what Israel is doing on another thread.

@Parkingt111 yes. נשים in Hebrew. I assume Nisa is the Arabic?

Is Nashim the hebrew word for women?

Thanks to both of you. Nisa Nashim looks interesting

Not much of a step up from google but I know the board of deputies of Jews is reputable. If they are mentioning organizations then I would assume they are legit

https://bod.org.uk/issue-areas/interfaith/

I have asked for info and will try and get back to you. Would rather work from recommendation than Google.
Take care.

I can't take your 'with respect' seriously.

My point stands, a few mumsnetters working for peace (there are quite a lot of us) will at least counterbalance a few mumsnetters stirring up division.

Except where you objected to the discussion. With respect, I don't think that a few mumsnetters joining these unnamed organisations is going to stop the genocide in Gaza. Netanyahu isn't keen on peaceful coexistence and he's calling all the shots now.

I think the thread is about standing with Israel while they annihilate Gaza so it's always going to include talk about Palestine.

@quantumbutterfly There are organisations that work towards peaceful coexistence in that region, maybe get involved with them.

if you know of any that are UK based that people here can get involved with then i would be grateful if you could share
I know of standing together which I follow but I don't believe they have a base here * *

@quantumbutterfly I was wondering that.....

As you say, it's a discussion forum.
I am opening the discussion to a constructive solution.
If I wanted to shut down the debate I might wonder why a discussion titled standing for Israel has veered into one about Palestine as it could be construed as a derailment.

It's a discussion forum. People are free to discuss. I think the future of the people of Gaza is a fair thing to wonder and worry about, personally. I can't imagine why you'd want to shut down debate on that.

You know this kind of speculation is meaningless.
These kind of discussions round dinner tables up and down the country influence the next generation to pick a side rather than seeing Israel as a country full of people who want to live in safety without rocket fire and suicide bombs just as peaceful Gazans want live in safety and plan a future for their children.
There are organisations that work towards peaceful coexistence in that region, maybe get involved with them.

@stormy4319trevor I'm unsure whether the Biden administration is sincere on wanting the Palestinians having their own state or its just noise to secure votes from those who are upset on his handling of the conflict.
Maybe that's me being cynical, I don't know. Time will tell I suppose on how they proceed from here

@Parkingt111 It will be interesting to see if the US has any comment on this. I've a bad feeling they will ignore it and keep funding, while making vague allusions to a Palestinian state as a 'nice to have' in perpetuity. But the lack of any viable plan for millions of people is rather horrifying.

@stormy4319trevor yes that is right, Netanyahu has outright rejected it with one minister going as far as saying that they would rather forgo any normalisation and peace treaties with other countries if it will come with the condition of allowing the Palestinians to have a state

@kirinm I'm not hearing any news like that. There should surely be questions about the Israeli government's plans for millions of Palestinians living in the OPT. Does he wish to annex the OPT and make them citizens of Israel? Does he wish to continue occupation indefinitely and have all these people existing in territory Israel controls, but without the full rights of citizens?