Standing up for Israel

Because (as I said in my post) there was a discussion on this thread about sexual violence against women

BUT the UN is an unreliable source.
According to Israel, the majority of other democratic states don't share this view so stating it as fact is wrong.
We can discuss it on another thread as requested and will wait to see how these "credible allegations" are investigated. I believe it to be true and will believe the victims unless proved otherwise

I don't want to believe this is true, if there is evidence I'm sure it will be investigated and there will be an outcry in Israel about it happening, as opposed to dancing and celebration in the streets seen in Gaza and many other places in the world including the UK after 7/10.
I still stand with Israel and call for release of hostages and bodies and overthrow of hamas from outside or inside Gaza. There are brave people in Gaza calling for that knowing that most of the world supports them.

@anotherlevel I think my statement is pretty self explanatory.
And your still on the wrong thread.

@stomachamelon so now you're denying it's happened because of the source?

Sexual assault is always unacceptable and all allegations need to be investigated.

BUT the UN is an unreliable source.

All info has been from the UN. No witness statements, statements from any victims. No testimony whatsoever.

Right now it's all a bit vague.

(If you are wondering where I got this response from cast your mind back a couple of months) #metoounlessyourajew.

I was wrong. Looks like it was still ignored.

Is that all you have to say about it? Is that all you're focused on? That it's not on the right thread? Really?

@10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne

They won't admit it. And if they begrudgingly do comment, it'll be something along the lines of it's just one rogue soldier who will be punished.

@LilaDidIt I don't know why you would share it on this thread rather than the numerous others condemning the IDF or those discussing sexual violence.

Somewhat goady?

www.newsweek.com/establish-palestinian-state-now-after-october-7-would-strategic-moral-failure-opinion-1871659

Newsweek piece.

The hypocrisy is glaring, isn't it? Pro-Israeli people are outraged by what happened to Israeli women, but when Palestinian women are raped by Israelis, they're don't care. It shows how dehumanised Palestinians are and how little they matter.

Yes. Their silence says it all.

Ridiculous. People quote others’ views all the time. After 7/10 this board was full of people falling over themselves to copy and agree with that Golda Meir quote about Arabs and their babies.

I shared a journal.ie news article on it earlier. As anotherlevel said it was largely ignored. I think it's hard to admit the soldiers you are supporting are behaving more and more like the terrorists you rightly hate

Yes - awful and disgusting. Sadly there's no outrage over it because they're Palestinians. And no Pro Israeli posters have commented on it either.

Has anyone seen this report from the UN? Just thought I'd share since the topic of sexual violence against women has previously been raised on the thread.

I've certainly learned a lot.

Um ok. I joined this forum because I thought it would be a good place to share links and learn from each other.
And the essay I shared wasn't from some random person from 100 years ago. He was a key Zionist leader, so I think his word counts for something.

So you don't agree with her? That's good news.

I would have liked to respond but seeing as you've accused me of being a rape denier I can't engage with you any more.

Because it's a discussion forum where it's customary to give your own opinion and not that of people from 100 years ago or random youtube personalities.

Why should it matter what I think, @DreamVortex ? I am learning all the time, just like anyone else. Just thought the essay was relevant to what you said because he never mentioned that Israel would be attacked because it was Jewish. And he, a Zionist leader, made the same analogy back in 1923 as the woman from the previous video who you have written off.

Do you have a point? Any opinions of your own?