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Standing up for Israel

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Fizzadora · 07/02/2024 11:41

So, they have got to MN now too.
I just managed to read the previous post before it got deleted for being inflammatory. Not to me it wasn't but then I don't support terrorists.
Many, many people do stand for Israel and not for Hamas (and by definition their supporters; you know who you are).

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Desertrose2023 · 21/02/2024 19:51

Efacsen · 21/02/2024 19:48

I don't think I'm imagining it - but when you search the first 2 pages are the 2014 Guardian story above and it doesn't come up as a 'related story' which is peculiar

It's clearly a popular place to get close to Gaza for different people and different reasons

Do you mean Ashkelon ?

Efacsen · 21/02/2024 19:48

Scirocco · 21/02/2024 19:40

I think I saw that one too, but I don't have a link to hand.

I don't think I'm imagining it - but when you search the first 2 pages are the 2014 Guardian story above and it doesn't come up as a 'related story' which is peculiar

It's clearly a popular place to get close to Gaza for different people and different reasons

Desertrose2023 · 21/02/2024 19:48

Thankfully, more and more people are starting to see the reality of Israel and speak out about it.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3nlFM6LcEg/?igsh=MTJjcGpzeTh5MHRxMw==

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3nlFM6LcEg/?igsh=MTJjcGpzeTh5MHRxMw==

inkworks273 · 21/02/2024 19:46

x.com/megatron_ron/status/1760384955962605722?s=46

"Israeli Knesset member Hanoch Milbitsky:

"You will die, your children will die, your grandchildren will die, there won't be a Palestinian state, there will never be,"

He shouted at Arab member Ayman Odeh following the voting regarding the possible recognition of a Palestinian state, which was refused by 99 out of 120 members."

Scirocco · 21/02/2024 19:40

Efacsen · 21/02/2024 17:55

There's been a recent one in the Guardian about celebrating Israelis getting into conflict with journalists on the hill overlooking Gaza - it's the nearest accessible place for international journalists not allowed into Gaza to observe/communicate with Gaza

It's about 5miles from the Gaza-Israel border called ?Ash-something

I think I saw that one too, but I don't have a link to hand.

Efacsen · 21/02/2024 19:37

stomachamelon · 21/02/2024 19:30

@Efacsen the only place 'ash-something' that I have seen footage from features the hostage families crying, shouting and singing to their loved ones.

Maybe it's the same place if it's the nearest place you can see into Gaza

LilaDidIt · 21/02/2024 19:36

I don't see why it should matter what the date of the video is, since the point is the same - extremists exist on both sides. However, since someone has asked, here is a more recent video of Israeli children singing in celebration of the destruction of Gaza.
And this video too.

stomachamelon · 21/02/2024 19:32

@Dulra I don't think that's in doubt. It's the relevance surely? I showed posts based on recent events.

stomachamelon · 21/02/2024 19:30

@Efacsen the only place 'ash-something' that I have seen footage from features the hostage families crying, shouting and singing to their loved ones.

Dulra · 21/02/2024 19:01

there have been celebrations in the streets in Israel too at Palestinian deaths, including the deaths of children long before October 7th. Israelis don't hold the moral high ground there.
@stomachamelon that was my original quote I did say long before October 7th. Celebrating murder especially of children is wrong no matter when it happened. I was just pointing out that it has happened in Israel too.

Efacsen · 21/02/2024 17:55

stomachamelon · 21/02/2024 17:43

@Dulra I should add a note though (after having a more in-depth look) that those videos are a decade old?
I thought you meant in relation to this period?

There's been a recent one in the Guardian about celebrating Israelis getting into conflict with journalists on the hill overlooking Gaza - it's the nearest accessible place for international journalists not allowed into Gaza to observe/communicate with Gaza

It's about 5miles from the Gaza-Israel border called ?Ash-something

Februaryfeels · 21/02/2024 17:54

Why would anyone come onto a thread about standing up for Israel and post lots of links that are neither relevant nor current.

Every thread. Same old same old on every thread.

stomachamelon · 21/02/2024 17:43

@Dulra I should add a note though (after having a more in-depth look) that those videos are a decade old?
I thought you meant in relation to this period?

quantumbutterfly · 21/02/2024 16:59

Agreed

stomachamelon · 21/02/2024 16:20

@Dulra agreed.

Dulra · 21/02/2024 16:13

stomachamelon · 21/02/2024 16:06

Those videos are awful. There is no room for extremism either side of the coin. We cannot move forward unless it's eradicated.

100% there are horrible people everywhere and it's important to call it out no matter where it's coming from.

stomachamelon · 21/02/2024 16:06

Those videos are awful. There is no room for extremism either side of the coin. We cannot move forward unless it's eradicated.

inkworks273 · 21/02/2024 16:05

stomachamelon · 21/02/2024 15:50

In the report systematic and premeditated gang rape of underage girls, boys, men and women in four different locations.

The UN will receive the report from Israel.

Could you please link the source of this? I'd like to read it.

ConnieCounter · 21/02/2024 15:59

quantumbutterfly · 21/02/2024 14:35

I don't want to believe this is true, if there is evidence I'm sure it will be investigated and there will be an outcry in Israel about it happening, as opposed to dancing and celebration in the streets seen in Gaza and many other places in the world including the UK after 7/10.
I still stand with Israel and call for release of hostages and bodies and overthrow of hamas from outside or inside Gaza. There are brave people in Gaza calling for that knowing that most of the world supports them.

Like the moral outcry in Israel about the 12000 slaughtered children? I must have missed that.

stomachamelon · 21/02/2024 15:53

@Dulra can you provide evidence of the celebration of deaths of Palestinian children in Israel?

stomachamelon · 21/02/2024 15:50

In the report systematic and premeditated gang rape of underage girls, boys, men and women in four different locations.

The UN will receive the report from Israel.

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stomachamelon · 21/02/2024 15:48

Released by Israeli Association of Rape Crisis Centre.

Trigger warning.....

Auvergne63 · 21/02/2024 15:11

stomachamelon · 21/02/2024 14:21

Sexual assault is always unacceptable and all allegations need to be investigated.

BUT the UN is an unreliable source.

All info has been from the UN. No witness statements, statements from any victims. No testimony whatsoever.

Right now it's all a bit vague.

(If you are wondering where I got this response from cast your mind back a couple of months) #metoounlessyourajew.

If the Israeli government allowed the international press in and stopped killing Palestinian journalists, then we would be able to document what is happening in Gaza.
Rape as weapon of war is nothing new,. The allied raped their way through France and the Nazis before them. The probability of the IDF soldiers raping Palestinian men and women is really high.

Dulra · 21/02/2024 15:06

quantumbutterfly · 21/02/2024 14:35

I don't want to believe this is true, if there is evidence I'm sure it will be investigated and there will be an outcry in Israel about it happening, as opposed to dancing and celebration in the streets seen in Gaza and many other places in the world including the UK after 7/10.
I still stand with Israel and call for release of hostages and bodies and overthrow of hamas from outside or inside Gaza. There are brave people in Gaza calling for that knowing that most of the world supports them.

You can believe whatever way you like, they have been described as credible allegations by not just the UN and it is being reported across mainstream news outlets. There is no if, there is evidence which will hopefully be investigated independently of the IDF

outcry in Israel about it happening, as opposed to dancing and celebration in the streets seen in Gaza
there have been celebrations in the streets in Israel too at Palestinian deaths, including the deaths of children long before October 7th. Israelis don't hold the moral high ground there.