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Standing up for Israel

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Fizzadora · 07/02/2024 11:41

So, they have got to MN now too.
I just managed to read the previous post before it got deleted for being inflammatory. Not to me it wasn't but then I don't support terrorists.
Many, many people do stand for Israel and not for Hamas (and by definition their supporters; you know who you are).

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quantumbutterfly · 22/02/2024 11:35

And I haven't seen any posters actually saying they support genocide, only accusations that they do. Not really the same thing.

ConnieCounter · 22/02/2024 11:34

Well the genocide is pretty extreme and there aren't many people who stand for Israel objecting to it.

quantumbutterfly · 22/02/2024 11:33

Plenty of posters stand for Israel and Israelis without supporting extremist viewpoints.

ConnieCounter · 22/02/2024 11:19

stomachamelon · 22/02/2024 10:04

@Efacsen it's repeated hostile intrusion though when there are numerous other threads that could be used.

It also feels a bit like schooling. As if things would have escaped our attention ...... with a big dose of finger pointing and name calling.

We should be safe on this thread to talk about things without the usual suspects barging in. Respectful discussion of course but it's not. I have had numerous dm's from people frightened to engage.

I mean the title of the thread gives it away surely? It seems people are either wanting to derail or get it shut down. Either way not great.

As adults we should be able to think.... that's not for me and my opinion is not warranted.

So only people who are standing up for Israel's genocide in Gaza can post here, and only posts supporting that position will be acceptable? I just want to be clear about what you're saying.

LilaDidIt · 22/02/2024 11:02

I posted the video on this thread because it was relevant to the conversation that was was taking place on the thread, and specifically to another user's comment.
I don't see the problem in there being different perspectives and links from different sources on any thread. I much prefer that than having a social media algorithm decide what content it thinks I want to see.
I also think that it's possible to support a country and still call it out when something is happening that is wrong. So I don't see the harm in posting on this thread.

Mercurial123 · 22/02/2024 10:12

LilaDidIt · 22/02/2024 09:02

In that case, here you go - straight from the horse's mouth

The abused are now the abusers.

Efacsen · 22/02/2024 10:10

stomachamelon · 22/02/2024 10:04

@Efacsen it's repeated hostile intrusion though when there are numerous other threads that could be used.

It also feels a bit like schooling. As if things would have escaped our attention ...... with a big dose of finger pointing and name calling.

We should be safe on this thread to talk about things without the usual suspects barging in. Respectful discussion of course but it's not. I have had numerous dm's from people frightened to engage.

I mean the title of the thread gives it away surely? It seems people are either wanting to derail or get it shut down. Either way not great.

As adults we should be able to think.... that's not for me and my opinion is not warranted.

As I said - all that happens both ways so not particular to this thread

I could give you a hundred examples

Anyway I misunderstood @Februaryfeels post and have already apologised

Efacsen · 22/02/2024 10:06

Februaryfeels · 22/02/2024 10:05

@Efacsen By their MO and up close and personal I was meaning the shooting of innocent Israelis sitting in their cars

Sorry misunderstood

Februaryfeels · 22/02/2024 10:05

@Efacsen By their MO and up close and personal I was meaning the shooting of innocent Israelis sitting in their cars

stomachamelon · 22/02/2024 10:04

@Efacsen it's repeated hostile intrusion though when there are numerous other threads that could be used.

It also feels a bit like schooling. As if things would have escaped our attention ...... with a big dose of finger pointing and name calling.

We should be safe on this thread to talk about things without the usual suspects barging in. Respectful discussion of course but it's not. I have had numerous dm's from people frightened to engage.

I mean the title of the thread gives it away surely? It seems people are either wanting to derail or get it shut down. Either way not great.

As adults we should be able to think.... that's not for me and my opinion is not warranted.

Efacsen · 22/02/2024 09:53

Februaryfeels · 22/02/2024 09:40

That's their MO

Up close and personal

It's not really 'their MO'

It happens ALL the time on ALL threads - BOTH WAYS

Don't think I've seen a single thread that's not had some kind of 'hostile intrusion' no matter how sensitive the subject

Februaryfeels · 22/02/2024 09:40

stomachamelon · 22/02/2024 09:33

That's their MO

Up close and personal

stomachamelon · 22/02/2024 09:33

www.timesofisrael.com/one-killed-11-wounded-in-terror-shooting-attack-near-jerusalem-checkpoint/

Back to the original thread. Attack in Jerusalem.

Scirocco · 22/02/2024 09:16

Please watch the video posted in @LilaDidIt 's link above.

This is what is said by leaders of a country, in public and on the record. This is what I and others like me get told regularly, here in the UK, from people who have listened to and absorbed these views. This is how Palestinians and in many cases the wider Muslim community are viewed.

@LilaDidIt , I think that potentially warrants its own thread for discussion, actually. There's potentially quite a bit to consider from that, but doing so in depth could risk de-railing this thread?

Dulra · 22/02/2024 09:15

LilaDidIt · 22/02/2024 09:02

In that case, here you go - straight from the horse's mouth

That montage is chilling absolutely no words, the poor Palestinians don't stand a chance

LilaDidIt · 22/02/2024 09:02

quantumbutterfly · 21/02/2024 23:42

I am more likely to trust Israel than hamas.

In that case, here you go - straight from the horse's mouth

https://twitter.com/kthalps/status/1723538810221338973?s=20

Dulra · 22/02/2024 08:32

quantumbutterfly · 22/02/2024 08:13

You're accusing me of being a genocide supporter because I trust Israel more than a bunch of lying terrorists whose stated aim is the genocidal destruction of Israel?

Marvellous!

The irony, The IDf are a bunch of state sponsored terrorists who are currently involved in the genocidal destruction of Palestine

quantumbutterfly · 22/02/2024 08:13

You're accusing me of being a genocide supporter because I trust Israel more than a bunch of lying terrorists whose stated aim is the genocidal destruction of Israel?

Marvellous!

Mercurial123 · 22/02/2024 06:51

quantumbutterfly · 21/02/2024 23:42

I am more likely to trust Israel than hamas.

Of course, Netanyahu seems quite happy to be committing genocide.

quantumbutterfly · 21/02/2024 23:42

I am more likely to trust Israel than hamas.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 21/02/2024 23:29

anotherlevel · 21/02/2024 14:12

@10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne

They won't admit it. And if they begrudgingly do comment, it'll be something along the lines of it's just one rogue soldier who will be punished.

While ignoring that the soldier they're talking about only got a slap on the wrist, of course.

Desertrose2023 · 21/02/2024 20:08

LilaDidIt · 21/02/2024 20:05

Thanks - I've heard about this film. Do you know where/how we can see it in its entirety?

it should be available for worldwide private rental here for $5

https://kinema.com/films/israelism-jvor8l

sharing the trailer for anyone else who may be interested

Israelism

Host a screening of Israelism

https://kinema.com/films/israelism-jvor8l

Efacsen · 21/02/2024 20:07

Efacsen · 21/02/2024 19:57

I know a lot of press stay in hotels in Ashkelon but it's 20 miles from Gaza - unless the whole general area between the 2 goes by that name ??

Scrub that Wikipedia says it's only 8 miles from Gaza

Looks like a lovely historic place

LilaDidIt · 21/02/2024 20:05

Desertrose2023 · 21/02/2024 19:48

Thankfully, more and more people are starting to see the reality of Israel and speak out about it.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3nlFM6LcEg/?igsh=MTJjcGpzeTh5MHRxMw==

Thanks - I've heard about this film. Do you know where/how we can see it in its entirety?

Efacsen · 21/02/2024 19:57

Desertrose2023 · 21/02/2024 19:51

Do you mean Ashkelon ?

I know a lot of press stay in hotels in Ashkelon but it's 20 miles from Gaza - unless the whole general area between the 2 goes by that name ??

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