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Us to send 17.6billion to Israel

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EasterIssland · 03/02/2024 21:37

17.6 billion would include funds to help replenish Israel's missile defense systems, procure additional advanced weapons systems, and produce artillery and other munitions

why
why does Israel need so much money if they’re such a successful country
why Israel? Why not any other country?
What benefit does usa get from funding a conflict ?

can anyone explain why does usa keep on aiding Israel when this money could save many lives around the world?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-house-panel-recommends-176-billion-military-aid-israel-2024-02-03/

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SharonEllis · 04/02/2024 08:05

Yes its the sophisticated nature of Israel's deterrent that is expensive. They lived wirh regular rocket attackd from Gaza & Hezbollah before 7 October. The threat is constant but has now escalated to a ground war.

Its a weird question this. I mean the much more inexplicable thing is why the world turned a blind eye to Hamas diverting billions of aid to buying rockets, and building tunnels designed not to protect their citizens (compare Ukraine) but to wage war & create a network that turned gaza into a massive human shield.

Efacsen · 04/02/2024 07:58

There's also the loss of overseas workers - many of whom returned home after 7/10 and to a lesser extent Palestinian workers from Gaza and the West Bank

Discharging the Iron Dome is eye-wateringly expensive too tho' this may be directly financed by the US - seen different accounts

SharonEllis · 04/02/2024 07:53

JustMaggie · 03/02/2024 22:36

Israel is a key American ally in the region, and it became even more important when the Iranians overthrew the Shah. They need Israel even more now that Iran has allied itself with the Chinese and Russians. It's all politics.

'Its all politics' makes it sound superficial. Its not superficial when Jews who lived for centuries in countries across the Middle East have been persucuted & purged from these countries. Israel is pretty much the only place where jews arabs christians, druze etc women, gay people, etc have a chance of living a decent life in a thriving economy. Iran is a theocratic dictatorship, pulling strings across the region.

SharonEllis · 04/02/2024 07:49

EasterIssland · 04/02/2024 07:14

No im not denying that Israel is a successful country

im asking why a successful country needs billions of foreign aid. Why can’t they pay for it themselves. I’d prefer this money being spent in non successful countries instead

so as per your words and correct me if wrong , it wouldn’t be a successful country if they didn’t have this foreign aid?

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It obviously wont be a country at all if it is wiped off the face of the earth. I dont know why you are pretending not to understand this? Being in a state of war, does tend to have an impact. This is not hard.

Efacsen · 04/02/2024 07:41

Think it's true to say that Israel's economy is struggling atm - frequent air raid sirens regularly disrupt workers/businesses, large nos soldiers on the battlefield rather than in employment, evacuated civilians unable to go to work, trade and tourism disrupted

So the war has definitely had an impact

EasterIssland · 04/02/2024 07:14

SharonEllis · 03/02/2024 22:27

Are you denying that Israel is a successful country? Really? Its all easy to look up. It wont be a successful country if it has to divert all its resources into defending itself when it is facing a huge threat. Its various industries & services are part of a global economy which is beneficial to its trading partners. Pretty basic economics I would have thought. The US's funding to other countries is readily available information which you can also look up. Its also a moral & atrategic imperative to deter Israel's neighbours who have declared their intention to kill the jews.

No im not denying that Israel is a successful country

im asking why a successful country needs billions of foreign aid. Why can’t they pay for it themselves. I’d prefer this money being spent in non successful countries instead

so as per your words and correct me if wrong , it wouldn’t be a successful country if they didn’t have this foreign aid?

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JustMaggie · 03/02/2024 22:36

Israel is a key American ally in the region, and it became even more important when the Iranians overthrew the Shah. They need Israel even more now that Iran has allied itself with the Chinese and Russians. It's all politics.

FOJN · 03/02/2024 22:27

SharonEllis · 03/02/2024 21:48

Precisely becsuse Israel is a successful country and faces an existential threat from the countries around it. Iran specifically has vowed to destroy Israel & kill all jews. Of course the US cant allow this to happen.

The US is paying through the nose for a static aircraft carrier.

Israel, like the rest of the world, is facing an existential threat from the actions of the Israeli government.

For some reason the Israeli government think they can commit genocide with impunity and imagine the USA will be able to save them from the collective might of countries who have a problem with that.

There are limits to what the USA can offer in terms of military support. If Israel can't win it has a policy in place intended to take everyone down with it which probably means nuclear. I think the Netanyahu government is psychopathic enough to go through with it.

SharonEllis · 03/02/2024 22:27

EasterIssland · 03/02/2024 21:55

If Israel is a successful country as you say why does it need external aid instead of using their own money to defend themselves?

how many other successful countries does us fund around the world

Are you denying that Israel is a successful country? Really? Its all easy to look up. It wont be a successful country if it has to divert all its resources into defending itself when it is facing a huge threat. Its various industries & services are part of a global economy which is beneficial to its trading partners. Pretty basic economics I would have thought. The US's funding to other countries is readily available information which you can also look up. Its also a moral & atrategic imperative to deter Israel's neighbours who have declared their intention to kill the jews.

EasterIssland · 03/02/2024 21:55

SharonEllis · 03/02/2024 21:48

Precisely becsuse Israel is a successful country and faces an existential threat from the countries around it. Iran specifically has vowed to destroy Israel & kill all jews. Of course the US cant allow this to happen.

If Israel is a successful country as you say why does it need external aid instead of using their own money to defend themselves?

how many other successful countries does us fund around the world

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SharonEllis · 03/02/2024 21:48

Precisely becsuse Israel is a successful country and faces an existential threat from the countries around it. Iran specifically has vowed to destroy Israel & kill all jews. Of course the US cant allow this to happen.