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Where is Hind ?

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Desertrose2023 · 01/02/2024 12:33

6 year old Hind Hamadeh was in a car with her family, including her mum, dad and 4 siblings. Their car came under fire from the Israeli army and her whole family was killed. Paramedics from the Palestine Red Crescent were dispatched to try and rescue her. Nothing has been heard of Hind or the ambulance crew for 48 hours!

when will these appalling incidents end.

Please raise awareness where you can about their disappearance. Here is the recording of Hind’s call begging for help.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2wrK6qtXrf/?igsh=MWRvemc5emo4aWVsbQ==

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Humdingerydoo · 16/02/2024 13:11

OptionsOpen · 16/02/2024 12:58

Well, your OTT off-topic response to me was not a sensible reaction so you deserve the response you got. What is ‘incredibly offensive and inappropriate’ is not being horrified and disgusted by the death of this child. But here we are.

Alternatively, you could just admit you were wrong to group all of us together based on one antagonistic comment.

I've already shared my feelings of horror about Hind's death. I don't feel the need to do so multiple times just to satisfy an anonymous poster.

anotherlevel · 16/02/2024 13:10

Parkingt111 · 16/02/2024 09:48

The PRCS released this audio yesterday.
In her last moments in an attempt to calm down Hind their colleague Rana recited Quran with her 💔

https://twitter.com/PalestineRCS/status/1758188464271429951?t=AH55L-ArLBWsaK8PLOnJfA&s=19

Absolutely 💔 I hope Hind was able to find some kind of calm and peace upon hearing the Quran read to her. I truly admire the strength of their faith in the face of death.

Parkingt111 · 16/02/2024 13:02

It seems to me that the poster simply made the comment to antagonise.
Most people in the world are able to show respect for young children who have been killed regardless of where they are from or who they are

OptionsOpen · 16/02/2024 12:58

Humdingerydoo · 16/02/2024 12:55

None of that is a response to what I wrote.

Well, your OTT off-topic response to me was not a sensible reaction so you deserve the response you got. What is ‘incredibly offensive and inappropriate’ is not being horrified and disgusted by the death of this child. But here we are.

Humdingerydoo · 16/02/2024 12:55

OptionsOpen · 16/02/2024 12:54

I am done with this kind of pathetic nonsense at this stage of the conflict. Despising the murderous child-slaughtering actions of the Israeli government several months on, is not denying Israel right to exist. Never would I deny Israel’s right to exist. Ridiculous.

None of that is a response to what I wrote.

OptionsOpen · 16/02/2024 12:54

Humdingerydoo · 16/02/2024 12:50

Do you often group people together like this? Or is it only people who support Israel's right to exist that you like to group together and make assumptions about? Are we just one big completely uniform group of people to you? Or will you acknowledge that your comment was incredibly offensive and inappropriate?

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I am done with this kind of pathetic nonsense at this stage of the conflict. Despising the murderous child-slaughtering actions of the Israeli government several months on, is not denying Israel right to exist. Never would I deny Israel’s right to exist. Ridiculous.

ConnieCounter · 16/02/2024 12:52

Myothercarisareliantrobin · 16/02/2024 12:14

Why are you surprised about this? Surely you don't expect her to read the Book of Mormon ?

God. Where's your humanity? If you don't have anything decent to say about the murder of a child maybe just say nothing?

Humdingerydoo · 16/02/2024 12:50

OptionsOpen · 16/02/2024 12:40

I think that comment says it all about the kind of people who continue to support the Israeli government’s actions.

Do you often group people together like this? Or is it only people who support Israel's right to exist that you like to group together and make assumptions about? Are we just one big completely uniform group of people to you? Or will you acknowledge that your comment was incredibly offensive and inappropriate?

Parkingt111 · 16/02/2024 12:44

@Myothercarisareliantrobin did I say I was surprised?

inkworks273 · 16/02/2024 12:42

OptionsOpen · 16/02/2024 12:40

I think that comment says it all about the kind of people who continue to support the Israeli government’s actions.

Was thinking exactly the same thing.

OptionsOpen · 16/02/2024 12:40

LonelyPainter · 16/02/2024 12:35

Wow. That's your reaction?

I think that comment says it all about the kind of people who continue to support the Israeli government’s actions.

LonelyPainter · 16/02/2024 12:35

Myothercarisareliantrobin · 16/02/2024 12:14

Why are you surprised about this? Surely you don't expect her to read the Book of Mormon ?

Wow. That's your reaction?

Myothercarisareliantrobin · 16/02/2024 12:14

Parkingt111 · 16/02/2024 09:48

The PRCS released this audio yesterday.
In her last moments in an attempt to calm down Hind their colleague Rana recited Quran with her 💔

https://twitter.com/PalestineRCS/status/1758188464271429951?t=AH55L-ArLBWsaK8PLOnJfA&s=19

Why are you surprised about this? Surely you don't expect her to read the Book of Mormon ?

MercanDede · 16/02/2024 10:04

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inkworks273 · 16/02/2024 09:53

@Parkingt111 💔 I just don't have the words to express how angry I am that these atrocities are being allowed to happen.

Parkingt111 · 16/02/2024 09:48

The PRCS released this audio yesterday.
In her last moments in an attempt to calm down Hind their colleague Rana recited Quran with her 💔

https://twitter.com/PalestineRCS/status/1758188464271429951?t=AH55L-ArLBWsaK8PLOnJfA&s=19

https://twitter.com/PalestineRCS/status/1758188464271429951?s=19&t=AH55L-ArLBWsaK8PLOnJfA

MercanDede · 15/02/2024 13:48

Myothercarisareliantrobin · 15/02/2024 13:31

Euromed Human Rights Monitor seems an interesting organisation.

https://www.ngo-monitor.org/ngos/euro-med-human-rights-monitor/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGO_Monitor

“NGO Monitor (Non-governmental Organization Monitor) is a right-wing non-governmental organization based in Jerusalemthat reports on international NGO activity from a pro-Israel perspective.[4][5][6][7]
NGO Monitor

The organization was founded in 2001 by Gerald M. Steinberg under the auspices of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, before becoming a legally and financially independent organization in 2007.[citation needed]
NGO Monitor has been criticized by academic figures, diplomats, and journalists for allowing its research and conclusions to be driven by politics,[8][9][10] for not examining right-wing NGOs,[10] and for putting out misleading information.[11] NGO Monitor's stated mission is to "end the practice used by certain self-declared 'humanitarian NGOs' of exploiting the label 'universal human rights values' to promote politically and ideologically motivated agendas".[1] A number of academics have written that NGO Monitor's aims and activities are political in nature.[10][12][9]
The organization's leader, Gerald M. Steinberg, has reportedly worked for the Israeli Foreign Ministry and the Office of the Prime Minister while heading NGO Monitor.[13]”….

“Neve Gordon, writing in Law & Society Review, describes the term as part of a campaign to portray human rights as a national security threat and to impede organizations that expose human rights abuses, using NGO Monitor's activities as one of its main examples.[37]”

hmmm and their staff has been a bit naughty too.
“NGO Monitor's online communications editor, Arnie Draiman, was indefinitely banned from editing Wikipedia articles about the Israeli-Arab conflict due to biased editing, concealing his place of work and using a second account in a way forbidden by Wikipedia policy.[15]”

NGO Monitor - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGO_Monitor

ConnieCounter · 15/02/2024 13:37

Myothercarisareliantrobin · 15/02/2024 13:31

Euromed Human Rights Monitor seems an interesting organisation.

https://www.ngo-monitor.org/ngos/euro-med-human-rights-monitor/

Well the reason for being of the source you posted there is to discredit human rights organisations and charities who speak out against Israel's atrocities. The fact that it even exists is wild.

MercanDede · 15/02/2024 13:23

inkworks273 · 13/02/2024 18:51

euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6152/Gaza:-Initial-findings-show-Israeli-army-purposefully-kills-a-child,-uses-an-American-made-missile-to-target-her-rescue-crew

"Gaza: Initial findings show Israeli army purposefully kills a child, uses an American-made missile to target her rescue crew"

Well that answers everyone who wanted bullets and missiles identified as well as bodies examined for proof that IDF deliberately killed them.

inkworks273 · 13/02/2024 18:51

euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6152/Gaza:-Initial-findings-show-Israeli-army-purposefully-kills-a-child,-uses-an-American-made-missile-to-target-her-rescue-crew

"Gaza: Initial findings show Israeli army purposefully kills a child, uses an American-made missile to target her rescue crew"

MercanDede · 13/02/2024 18:20

Efacsen · 13/02/2024 18:16

It wasn't just a carpark - it was the courtyard of Al Ailhi hospital where 100s of displaced people were sheltering some of who were sleeping in their cars

It was about 7.30pm and pitch black so difficult to see how many people had been killed

The following day US said 100-200 people died

Yes the US estimated the death toll was 100-300, likely the lower end.
But they based that on looking at video footage and their ideas as to how close together people would be in courtyard.

Efacsen · 13/02/2024 18:16

Myothercarisareliantrobin · 13/02/2024 08:15

"Who fired that missile has never actually been proven."

It's true that no-one knew which terrorist group fired it. The report of 500 dead and the hospital being hit was nonsense. There was a small hole in the carpark.

It wasn't just a carpark - it was the courtyard of Al Ailhi hospital where 100s of displaced people were sheltering some of who were sleeping in their cars

It was about 7.30pm and pitch black so difficult to see how many people had been killed

The following day US said 100-200 people died

MercanDede · 13/02/2024 18:13

Myothercarisareliantrobin · 12/02/2024 09:53

I didn't query whether they did it.

I said that they were accused of doing it before more info came out. Then it was revealed that it was a Hamas 'own goal'.

My point continues to be that there is so much misinformation flying about that it makes people cynical about what is reported.

It was never revealed it was a Hamas attack or “own goal”. That is one of the pieces of misinformation caused by the fake IDF audio recording of two actors pretending to be Hamas talking about the rocket hitting a hospital car park.

The IDF had ordered evacuation on 13th October and then hit the Ali Arab hospital on the 14th of October with a ‘warning shell’ that was not explosive but still damaged two floors, injuring 4. This was prior to this contested rocket on 17th October so you can understand why it was initially presumed to be IDF. In addition, across Gaza there had been 51 attacks on hospitals by IDF by October 17th killing 15 and injuring 27.

As for the rocket on the 17th of October, you said it an earlier post that no one was hurt by it. This is more misinformation. The initial estimated killed was 500 due to the fact that at least 500 people were sheltering in the courtyard and the explosion then caused a massive wall of fire which then blew people into body parts. The death toll was later revised to 471 by Hamas Health Ministry and the Director of nearby Al Shifa- where most of the bodies were taken said that the death toll was at least 250 with 350 injured and the poor condition of the bodies had made it hard to estimate with accuracy.

This is not unheard of. The Oct 7th death toll was originally 2500 and has been revised downwards to 1,140. It is hardly surprising that in the immediate aftermath, that death tolls are often inaccurate. It was really the fault of the news media reporting numbers dead too quickly after the incident and then people making too much of what is an entirely predictable process of death tolls being updated as bodies are identified.

The origin of the rocket is still contested. US, Israeli and many European intelligence agencies think it was a misfired PIJ rocket that fell short of its target outside Gaza. Meaning it was an accident.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ahli_Arab_Hospital_explosion

Al-Ahli Arab Hospital explosion - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ahli_Arab_Hospital_explosion