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Uk politicians position about the war

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EasterIssland · 31/01/2024 18:28

I’ve read that in the last few days Starmer is concerned about the Muslim people not voting labour cuz of his position

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2024/jan/30/labour-acts-on-fears-muslims-will-not-vote-for-party-over-gaza-stance

do you think this will have an impact on this years general elections ? I guess whatever they do they’ll lose votes

Labour acts on fears Muslims will not vote for party over Gaza stance | Labour | The Guardian

Exclusive: Party launches outreach effort amid concerns it is losing support of normally loyal voters

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2024/jan/30/labour-acts-on-fears-muslims-will-not-vote-for-party-over-gaza-stance

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EasterIssland · 14/02/2024 13:17

Joyce onstad has stepped down from her role in lib dems as some members of her party aren’t happy with her work against genocide

https://twitter.com/JoyceOnstad/status/1757563366803927080

https://twitter.com/JoyceOnstad/status/1757563366803927080

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Ladyjanegreysketle · 13/02/2024 12:35

Februaryfeels · 13/02/2024 12:33

Him versus that Galloway twat

What a choice

😂😂

Februaryfeels · 13/02/2024 12:33

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 13/02/2024 12:24

They just didn’t want to have to deal with, because it would have caused a big problem had he been removed. So they left it become too late for him to be removed.

Just guess though.

Him versus that Galloway twat

What a choice

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 13/02/2024 12:24

They just didn’t want to have to deal with, because it would have caused a big problem had he been removed. So they left it become too late for him to be removed.

Just guess though.

Offwiththecircus · 13/02/2024 12:10

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 13/02/2024 10:05

Part of me wonders if they left it too late on purpose, to avoid opening this particular box of delights at the moment.

But I’m quite cynical that way.

sorry, probably being very dim, can you explain?
honest question.

Ladyjanegreysketle · 13/02/2024 10:08

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 13/02/2024 10:05

Part of me wonders if they left it too late on purpose, to avoid opening this particular box of delights at the moment.

But I’m quite cynical that way.

Exactly.

Now he can slug it out with George Galloway....

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 13/02/2024 10:05

Ladyjanegreysketle · 13/02/2024 06:22

Labour has now cut their endorsement of Azhar Ali as it seems more of his comments have come to light. He won't be standing but it's too late to take his name off the ballot paper

https://www.independent.co.uk/politics/labour-party-rochdale-azhir-ali-candidate-b2494995.html

Part of me wonders if they left it too late on purpose, to avoid opening this particular box of delights at the moment.

But I’m quite cynical that way.

Ladyjanegreysketle · 13/02/2024 09:58

Offwiththecircus · 13/02/2024 09:54

I thought he would effectively be standing but without labour support and so if elected would be in the house as an independent.
Sir kier is certainly right that he has changed the party out of all recognition. Debatable whether it is still a party. What next, sir keir has plastic surgery to change himself out of all recognition and the voters can guess which masked singer/cartoon character he is?

My mistake, he is standing but as an Independent as he's lost the Labour Whip.

Offwiththecircus · 13/02/2024 09:54

I thought he would effectively be standing but without labour support and so if elected would be in the house as an independent.
Sir kier is certainly right that he has changed the party out of all recognition. Debatable whether it is still a party. What next, sir keir has plastic surgery to change himself out of all recognition and the voters can guess which masked singer/cartoon character he is?

EasterIssland · 12/02/2024 09:10

Offwiththecircus · 12/02/2024 08:26

is that top partly cut tweet from Starmer?

its not cut if you click on the pic you can see it’s his tweet

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Ladyjanegreysketle · 12/02/2024 08:36

BelleHathor · 12/02/2024 00:12

I think it's meant to be East Baghdad. I know that it is racist in that it explicitly states that Galloway only represents a certain race of people.
Similar sentiments are repeated on social media by far right sorts.
Cue, incoming feigning innocence.🙄

George Galloway was a presenter on Russia Today and used to have his own show. (As did Alex Salmond) Unfortunately we can't see that programme any more as I believe it's been banned from UK.

He (Galloway) was also a Brexit supporter.

So you could say he has a cosmopolitan outlook.

It will be interesting to see what platform he fights his campaign on.

Offwiththecircus · 12/02/2024 08:26

EasterIssland · 11/02/2024 21:55

Probably hiding after this comment today and people reminding him his last 5 months’ words and threats he did against those within his cabinet that voted in favour of a ceasefire months ago

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is that top partly cut tweet from Starmer?

Coyoacan · 12/02/2024 01:58

I would rather spoil my ballot than vote for a politician or a party that believes that genocide is a reasonable solution to a problem.

BelleHathor · 12/02/2024 00:12

Scirocco · 12/02/2024 00:02

The ex-MP for where?

I think it's meant to be East Baghdad. I know that it is racist in that it explicitly states that Galloway only represents a certain race of people.
Similar sentiments are repeated on social media by far right sorts.
Cue, incoming feigning innocence.🙄

Scirocco · 12/02/2024 00:02

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The ex-MP for where?

BelleHathor · 11/02/2024 23:47

Livinginanotherworld · 11/02/2024 22:53

I’ve very late to this thread and have quickly read through it.

Long term labour voter here, there is no way on earth I’ll be voting for Starmers party. I’m in favour of a socialist party as a proper opposition, which is a pipe dream I know.

I do think Labour are now running scared, literally in the last few weeks, they have flipped and flopped. They know they’ve lost the majority of the Muslim vote, they have removed the whip from certain pro-ceasefire MP’s sacking for minor infractions, yet have made it clear their candidate is still standing in Rochdale after his massive cock up.
The interesting thing to me, is the independents are starting to work together. They’ve put indie Leanne Mohamed a Palestinian candidate up against Wes Streeting. Andrew Feinstein ( this guy is a great speaker) up against Starmer’s constituent. George Galloway ( love him or hate him) in Rochdale. Sam Gorst in Liverpool Garsten there are many more. Could this work ? A hung parliament when there is no whip, you get what you elected voting for your concerns. No majority so they have to talk cross house and vote individually. Someone way more knowledgable than me could give their opinion on this, Greens and Independents working in a similar way ? Maybe look at your independents with fresh eyes ?

It could work and honestly would be the best thing for the country (as in, it will limit the damage that can be done with a large majority and hopefully encourage co-operation).

Feinstein is a gem, He is often a speaker on twitter spaces and it's fascinating listening to him recount how terrible Apartheid South Africa was and how many western countries just stood by.

He told a wonderful story of how Mandela met Thatcher after being released and reminded her of when she'd suggested that the SA government "get rid" of Mandela.

Uk politicians position about the war
Ladyjanegreysketle · 11/02/2024 23:07

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Livinginanotherworld · 11/02/2024 22:53

I’ve very late to this thread and have quickly read through it.

Long term labour voter here, there is no way on earth I’ll be voting for Starmers party. I’m in favour of a socialist party as a proper opposition, which is a pipe dream I know.

I do think Labour are now running scared, literally in the last few weeks, they have flipped and flopped. They know they’ve lost the majority of the Muslim vote, they have removed the whip from certain pro-ceasefire MP’s sacking for minor infractions, yet have made it clear their candidate is still standing in Rochdale after his massive cock up.
The interesting thing to me, is the independents are starting to work together. They’ve put indie Leanne Mohamed a Palestinian candidate up against Wes Streeting. Andrew Feinstein ( this guy is a great speaker) up against Starmer’s constituent. George Galloway ( love him or hate him) in Rochdale. Sam Gorst in Liverpool Garsten there are many more. Could this work ? A hung parliament when there is no whip, you get what you elected voting for your concerns. No majority so they have to talk cross house and vote individually. Someone way more knowledgable than me could give their opinion on this, Greens and Independents working in a similar way ? Maybe look at your independents with fresh eyes ?

EasterIssland · 11/02/2024 21:55

Offwiththecircus · 11/02/2024 21:42

Not the strongest of statements from DC at all and needs to be stronger, but something. Meanwhile, where's Starmer?

Probably hiding after this comment today and people reminding him his last 5 months’ words and threats he did against those within his cabinet that voted in favour of a ceasefire months ago

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Offwiththecircus · 11/02/2024 21:42

AdamRyan · 11/02/2024 18:08

I'm happy that the foreign secretary of the UK is posting that kind of thing. I fully support him (and I'm a lefty). Well done DC

Not the strongest of statements from DC at all and needs to be stronger, but something. Meanwhile, where's Starmer?

Scirocco · 11/02/2024 21:16

Ladyjanegreysketle · 11/02/2024 21:09

I'm afraid I can't edit the post, sorry.

Don't worry, it's just something I thought you might not be aware of, so I thought I'd let you know.

Ladyjanegreysketle · 11/02/2024 21:09

Scirocco · 11/02/2024 21:07

It's a temperamental feature... I'm not sure if there's maybe a timer on it or something, as I've just checked a couple of my own posts and some have it available but some don't.

I'm afraid I can't edit the post, sorry.

Scirocco · 11/02/2024 21:07

It's a temperamental feature... I'm not sure if there's maybe a timer on it or something, as I've just checked a couple of my own posts and some have it available but some don't.