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Uk politicians position about the war

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EasterIssland · 31/01/2024 18:28

I’ve read that in the last few days Starmer is concerned about the Muslim people not voting labour cuz of his position

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2024/jan/30/labour-acts-on-fears-muslims-will-not-vote-for-party-over-gaza-stance

do you think this will have an impact on this years general elections ? I guess whatever they do they’ll lose votes

Labour acts on fears Muslims will not vote for party over Gaza stance | Labour | The Guardian

Exclusive: Party launches outreach effort amid concerns it is losing support of normally loyal voters

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2024/jan/30/labour-acts-on-fears-muslims-will-not-vote-for-party-over-gaza-stance

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Scirocco · 31/03/2024 23:08

HeidiInTheBigCity · 31/03/2024 23:04

Much as I would like to think that - I don[t agree with you on this!

The UK is not - never was - the "junior partner" in terms of genocidal colonialism. We kind of, sort of, literally helped invent that in its modern sense! Long before the US eclipsed the UK in power, we enabled it to take shape in its current form by colonising North America and wiping out its native population!

Or ... to paraphrase that famous Mitchell & Webb sketch: "not only are we the baddies - we actually sort of wrote the manual!"

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HeidiInTheBigCity · 31/03/2024 23:04

Scirocco · 31/03/2024 18:20

So the government's position looks to potentially be aiding and abetting in war crimes and genocide. Following in the footsteps of the US again.

Much as I would like to think that - I don[t agree with you on this!

The UK is not - never was - the "junior partner" in terms of genocidal colonialism. We kind of, sort of, literally helped invent that in its modern sense! Long before the US eclipsed the UK in power, we enabled it to take shape in its current form by colonising North America and wiping out its native population!

Or ... to paraphrase that famous Mitchell & Webb sketch: "not only are we the baddies - we actually sort of wrote the manual!"

Dulra · 31/03/2024 19:29

Scirocco · 31/03/2024 18:20

So the government's position looks to potentially be aiding and abetting in war crimes and genocide. Following in the footsteps of the US again.

Yep war mongerer bed fellows yet again. How they seem to think they are morally superior to the rest of the world is deluded

Scirocco · 31/03/2024 18:20

So the government's position looks to potentially be aiding and abetting in war crimes and genocide. Following in the footsteps of the US again.

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EasterIssland · 27/03/2024 13:38

https://twitter.com/zarahsultana/status/1772898790053155083

134 MPs & Lords from Labour, the Conservatives, SNP, Lib Dems & more – I have called for arms sales to be suspended.

glad to see movement from the different parties. My MP who sent me an email saying how thanks to her party a ceasefire had been requested has not signed it

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Offwiththecircus · 07/03/2024 20:53

Sounds disgraceful.
Thanks for your post.
Makes me feel better about the fact that though a natural labour voter I didn't give my vote to labour in today's Lewisham mayoral election.
Sod em

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EasterIssland · 07/03/2024 20:43

A labour councillor resigns after being interrogated for over 6h by her party as to why she voted in favour of a ceasefire

https://twitter.com/SoniaWinifred/status/1765728708885647776

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MushMonster · 07/03/2024 17:40

And even US had enough with the aid delivery restrictions. Now to be delivered by sea, following air drops.
I wonder how the next ceasefire vote in the UN will go.
US will collaborate with the UN in the aid delivery (acccording to the Guardian), quite a step forward from a few weeks back.
Let's see what the UK government says about all this.
At least, Cameron is on talks to allow aid.
Can they please just let the aid in? It will,hopefully, reach the hostages too!

Scirocco · 06/03/2024 20:42

And still has the backing of the PM. He really does take Islamophobia seriously, doesn't he?

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Itoosurvive · 01/03/2024 19:51

MushMonster · 01/03/2024 19:41

They are too busy getting tangled over their own words and the shit they have in their heads to actually think about the real word. Or do anything, God forbid!
They are utterly useless.

The standard line for procrastination or evasion is "Information is still coming out, we want to wait until we can ensure that we have the full facts, before we comment"

MushMonster · 01/03/2024 19:41

They are too busy getting tangled over their own words and the shit they have in their heads to actually think about the real word. Or do anything, God forbid!
They are utterly useless.

MissyB1 · 01/03/2024 18:38

MushMonster · 01/03/2024 17:29

I have check the newspapers for the government and Labour position into the sad death of over 100 palestinians, and many injured during the delivery of aid, but I have not found any declaration from either Sunak or Starmer.
Have you seen any?

No, there doesn’t seem to be any official response from our politicians 😡 they’ve gone very quiet about the whole situation actually.

MushMonster · 01/03/2024 17:29

I have check the newspapers for the government and Labour position into the sad death of over 100 palestinians, and many injured during the delivery of aid, but I have not found any declaration from either Sunak or Starmer.
Have you seen any?

samG76 · 01/03/2024 11:54

I would imagine signing that letter is a way of ensuring that you don't get a job in a future labour govt.

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EasterIssland · 01/03/2024 10:59

PeasfullPerson · 01/03/2024 10:38

A link to the letter mentioned in the article above.

39 of the 200 MPs that have signed are from the UK. Names at the bottom of the letter. Might be worth politely lobbying your own if they aren’t on there.

https://progressive.international/wire/2024-03-01-we-will-not-be-complicit-in-israels-grave-violation-of-international-law/en

What a surprise that my MP isn’t in there despite last week she was telling me how amazing her party was and that thanks to her they had requested a ceasefire and humanitarian aid for Gaza

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quantumbutterfly · 27/02/2024 08:10

25milesfromhome · 25/02/2024 18:54

This kind of lobbying isn’t exactly unique to Israel or Labour. Amongst other lobbying from countries in the MENA region, Qatar is the fourth biggest donor to UK MPS since 2019, including, amongst other donations from Qatari govt organisations, nearly £250,000 from the Qatar Ministry of Foreign Affairs. A long and informative article:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/uk-qatar-israel-dubai-middle-east-donations-mps

https://news.sky.com/story/three-top-labour-mps-face-calls-to-return-hundreds-of-thousands-of-pounds-donated-by-single-company-12783809

Interesting article.

Three top Labour MPs face call to return hundreds of thousands of pounds donated by single company

Left-wing group Momentum branded the donations "dark money" after Sky News and Tortoise Media created the Westminster Accounts database, which reveals where MPs get their money from outside their normal salaries.

https://news.sky.com/story/three-top-labour-mps-face-calls-to-return-hundreds-of-thousands-of-pounds-donated-by-single-company-12783809

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EasterIssland · 27/02/2024 06:35

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Uk politicians position about the war
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25milesfromhome · 25/02/2024 18:54

This kind of lobbying isn’t exactly unique to Israel or Labour. Amongst other lobbying from countries in the MENA region, Qatar is the fourth biggest donor to UK MPS since 2019, including, amongst other donations from Qatari govt organisations, nearly £250,000 from the Qatar Ministry of Foreign Affairs. A long and informative article:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/uk-qatar-israel-dubai-middle-east-donations-mps

Qatar, Dubai speeches and Israel trips: Middle East donations to UK MPs

New database highlights extent of MENA 'gifts and benefits' to British lawmakers

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/uk-qatar-israel-dubai-middle-east-donations-mps

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quantumbutterfly · 24/02/2024 23:20

5 voters? damn!