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Uk politicians position about the war

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EasterIssland · 31/01/2024 18:28

I’ve read that in the last few days Starmer is concerned about the Muslim people not voting labour cuz of his position

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2024/jan/30/labour-acts-on-fears-muslims-will-not-vote-for-party-over-gaza-stance

do you think this will have an impact on this years general elections ? I guess whatever they do they’ll lose votes

Labour acts on fears Muslims will not vote for party over Gaza stance | Labour | The Guardian

Exclusive: Party launches outreach effort amid concerns it is losing support of normally loyal voters

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2024/jan/30/labour-acts-on-fears-muslims-will-not-vote-for-party-over-gaza-stance

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EasterIssland · 16/04/2024 21:13

PeasfullPerson · 16/04/2024 21:00

Where did you read that? Didn’t our government just assist in keeping his country safe! He seems to have some weird kind of complex where he thinks the whole world is against him.

Seems like the account was wrong. They did speak
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/uk-pm-sunak-told-netanyahu-that-middle-east-escalation-is-no-ones-interest-2024-04-16/

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PeasfullPerson · 16/04/2024 21:00

EasterIssland · 16/04/2024 19:02

Just saw this : Netanyahu refused to receive a phone call from the British Prime Minister.

Where did you read that? Didn’t our government just assist in keeping his country safe! He seems to have some weird kind of complex where he thinks the whole world is against him.

resouply · 16/04/2024 20:17

EasterIssland · 15/04/2024 18:08

Not that Cameron is doing any better …

https://twitter.com/aisha_c10/status/1779909940527731163

That twitter account is almost as bad as the pro-Nazi one that someone posted the other day. Where do you guys find these people?

EasterIssland · 16/04/2024 19:02

Just saw this : Netanyahu refused to receive a phone call from the British Prime Minister.

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BelleHathor · 15/04/2024 18:25

EasterIssland · 15/04/2024 18:08

Not that Cameron is doing any better …

https://twitter.com/aisha_c10/status/1779909940527731163

This was poetic justice, good on Kay Burley for asking the question.

MissyB1 · 15/04/2024 18:16

EasterIssland · 15/04/2024 18:08

Not that Cameron is doing any better …

https://twitter.com/aisha_c10/status/1779909940527731163

God our politicians are just so embarrassingly shit! 🤦‍♀️ They make me ashamed to be British.

EasterIssland · 15/04/2024 18:08

Not that Cameron is doing any better …

https://twitter.com/aisha_c10/status/1779909940527731163

https://twitter.com/aisha_c10/status/1779909940527731163

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EasterIssland · 15/04/2024 18:07

exactly. Where is sunaks condemnation about what is happening in Gaza

Uk politicians position about the war
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MissyB1 · 12/04/2024 16:27

ConnieCounter · 06/04/2024 19:49

This isn't a UK politician obviously but I thought the new Irish Taoiseach (PM) made some interesting comments this evening and wasn't sure where to post.

Comments below:
"In Gaza we see a humanitarian catastrophe worsen before our eyes.

We condemn the massacre carried out by Hamas in October and again call for the release of all hostages.

But we cannot stay silent on the actions of Israel either.

Reason has been replaced by revenge and by the bombing, maiming and death of children.

Famine. A spectre no Irish person can bear.

Anyone who can countenance deliberate starvation has lost their humanity.

Prime Minister Netanyahu, the Irish people could not be clearer. We are repulsed by your actions.

Ceasefire now and let the aid flow safely.
We need a two-state solution, with Israel and Palestine living side-by-side, in peace and security.

I reiterate Ireland stands ready to recognise the state of Palestine."

I hope he stands by his comments and takes some action.

Well said that man! 👍

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ConnieCounter · 06/04/2024 19:49

This isn't a UK politician obviously but I thought the new Irish Taoiseach (PM) made some interesting comments this evening and wasn't sure where to post.

Comments below:
"In Gaza we see a humanitarian catastrophe worsen before our eyes.

We condemn the massacre carried out by Hamas in October and again call for the release of all hostages.

But we cannot stay silent on the actions of Israel either.

Reason has been replaced by revenge and by the bombing, maiming and death of children.

Famine. A spectre no Irish person can bear.

Anyone who can countenance deliberate starvation has lost their humanity.

Prime Minister Netanyahu, the Irish people could not be clearer. We are repulsed by your actions.

Ceasefire now and let the aid flow safely.
We need a two-state solution, with Israel and Palestine living side-by-side, in peace and security.

I reiterate Ireland stands ready to recognise the state of Palestine."

I hope he stands by his comments and takes some action.

MushMonster · 06/04/2024 07:45

I do think they should stop the weapons exchange indeed.
That would be an incentive for a ceasefire and hopefully will start the final peace process.
If they carry on, regardless, I think we will be on the path to the (just a few months ago unthinkable) sanctions route.
I am impressed with the amount of people backing the petitions and their former job titles. I do think though, that the official position of the UK government will not budge, at least yet.

Scirocco · 05/04/2024 22:50

1dayatatime · 05/04/2024 22:44

@Scirocco

By arms sales do you mean purchases from or sales to Israel or both?

If it's both then they it starts to include a lot of countries:
US, Philippines, India, Czech, Brazil, Romania, Hungary, UK, UAE, Morocco, Spain, Kenya, Bahrain, Taiwan, Japan, Thailand, Canada, Germany etc.

I think it's reasonable to call for a pause on both sales to and deliveries from a country where there are considered to be concerns about war crimes and genocide. It's either supplying arms to potentially be used in the commission of those acts, or buying arms which were potentially developed and field-tested during the commission of those acts as well as providing money which could be used to fund the commission of those acts.

1dayatatime · 05/04/2024 22:44

@Scirocco

By arms sales do you mean purchases from or sales to Israel or both?

If it's both then they it starts to include a lot of countries:
US, Philippines, India, Czech, Brazil, Romania, Hungary, UK, UAE, Morocco, Spain, Kenya, Bahrain, Taiwan, Japan, Thailand, Canada, Germany etc.

Scirocco · 05/04/2024 22:32

@1dayatatime

Every arms sale to be used by the Israeli forces is potentially contributing to war crimes and even genocide. Given the information available, countries are running a real risk of complicity in some very serious acts.

1dayatatime · 05/04/2024 22:13

The UK sells around £42 million of arms sales to Israel per year but buys nearly $500 million in arms sales per year from Israel. For example the recent £1.4 billion Watchkeeper drone purchase which has been a bit of a disaster as they keep crashing.

But that said UK arms purchases from Israel are insignificant compared to say how much the UAE purchases from Israel.

PeasfullPerson · 05/04/2024 15:53

EasterIssland · 05/04/2024 14:41

https://twitter.com/TarbushNada/status/1776169316922098137
The Human Rights Council consists of 47 States that are elected by the UN General Assembly every year. The UK is not a voting member this year.

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Thank you!

EasterIssland · 05/04/2024 14:41

https://twitter.com/TarbushNada/status/1776169316922098137
The Human Rights Council consists of 47 States that are elected by the UN General Assembly every year. The UK is not a voting member this year.

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Scirocco · 31/03/2024 23:16

HeidiInTheBigCity · 31/03/2024 23:15

Now imagining Padawan Rishi and - amidst all the horror - this made me laugh out loud!

"Now witness the power of this fully armed and operational non-dom tax avoidance scheme."

HeidiInTheBigCity · 31/03/2024 23:15

Scirocco · 31/03/2024 23:08

You're right. The padawan has now become the master.

Now imagining Padawan Rishi and - amidst all the horror - this made me laugh out loud!