Israel ‘hit squad’ kill 3 Palestinians in West Bank Hospital

They haven’t always.

But the law makes it clear that your enemy not following the law is no excuse to not follow the law yourself. It is not a mitigating factor. It is not a get out of jail free card that allows you to break the laws too.

This goes both ways.

Normally we would see a state conducting the war more lawfully than the non state terrorists. I can’t say I have seen that at all.

And that is what they are being treated as.

Bit difficult when said terrorists are hiding in homes schools and hospitals.

No that's why they are considered a terrorist organisation

@hogmanayhoolie you're completely missing the point. Not sure anyone here supports terrorists but we support a proper rule of law which is imperative to keep us all safe. If the lawmakers don't stick to the rules of law they are putting everyone at risk

Did Hamas follow the laws of international armed conflict ?.

The suggestion to use precision and targeted hits has always been in the context of doing it while following the international laws of armed conflict. A precision or targeted hit is not automatically legal in all contexts.

What happened in the hospital was a war crime. It was not a legal targeted hit. It is as illegal as using phosphorus shells in an urban area.

There are not just illegal weapons, there are also illegal uses of legal weapons and tactics.

You need to read some of the witness statements and autopsy reports of the Hamas atrocities committed on innocent women and children including babies. That’s the reason for this. Mosad and the IDF will continue until they are satisfied the threat of further acts of brutality is secured. And what about all the hostages the Palestinian terrorists have abducted, including children.

Hamas are the Einsatzgruppen, and there is only one way to deal with them. History has taught the Jewish people that. This time they’re not going to fight back.

Did you miss the 'will be found accountable' bit?

I wish I could be comfortable with supporting terrorists but I can't seem to do that

I don't see them as just bad people 🤷🏻‍♀️

There are plenty of murderers, rapists, child abusers that I would love to see disposed of in this way BUT we have laws to ensure it doesn't become a free for all and to ensure people's rights are protected which includes right to a fair trial. Dressing up and imitating medical staff to carry out an execution in a hospital ward is wrong on so many levels and has now set a very dangerous precedent. People complain that the terrorists don't follow any laws, no they don't that's why they are called terrorists! When a countries own defence force resort to terrorist tactics the lines are becoming dangerously blurred. Is it back to the wild west? An eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth? Netanyahu is continuing to put Israeli lives at risk with these kind of tactics.

@Parkingt111 Yes, I saw he said they would control Gaza in the same way as the West Bank. He mentioned this hospital killing as an example of the military freedom of operation they could have in Gaza, (from Guardian.) I suppose this may be to reassure the public that nothing like Oct 7th would happen again. I remember the US was ruling out military occupation, so will be interesting to see what happens from their end.

Gallant has just said today that the plan is for Israel to occupy Gaza militarily after the war, the same way as they do In the occupied territories.

I do understand your view. But I think it's dangerous to do away with the processes of law and justice. Maybe we will hear more about this story soon, and it will become clearer.

As a matter of fact, the rules of war do apply to non-state combattants. If they did not, you would not be able to, say, prosecute them in the ICC or similar.

@AliceA2021 Ironically, if Palestine was a recognised state with an army, they would have to abide by the rules too. But the West Bank is occupied, and occupiers have obligations. It's even more complicated that the occupation is internationally deemed illegal.

It's not that I don't care about law, it's just that I don't care about how and where terrorists are eliminated

I really can't find it in my heart of GAF

I would imagine had I lost family on 7th October, then I'd be celebrating too

An international peace keeping presence might help, but would it be possible

Yes armies are expected to follow rules.

Terrorists don't.

Wars have rules which armies have to abide by even when terrorists don't.

It makes fighting terrorist organisations who hide in civilian areas very difficult. Probably impossible.

One 'side' should and must follow rules, they will be found accountable. The other side won't and garners much sympathy.

How to end this war? Negotiations are ongoing. For the sake of all innocents they progress well.

It is 'interesting ' that many denied what occurred on 7th Oct, minimised rapes, torture and brutal killings. Some deny parts of it.

Some believe anything that tic toc shows from Gaza, others demand evidence if something is claimed by 1 side, Israel. There are many, many wrongs.

It's awful the amount of innocent children that have died in bombing and it was suggested by some that targeted hits take place, to minimise this. It appears that a targeted hit took place with no other casualties and people not happy. There are rules of engagement and rules which armies must abide by (although terrorists don't of course). Different sides are held to different standards of course.

Still innocent children die and hostages are still held and no ceasefire. Overriding sadness and can see no way ahead since hames will not surrender.

So much polarisation. Very little negotiation.

Thanks op. I put a similar link in another thread about this.

those supporting this I guess they don’t care about law. They just want people dies. My thing is that idf has done many mistakes so they might killed innocent lives and then apologies for their acts. We shouldn’t normalise the killing of anyone. Follow the lawful rules.

btw as we can see that whenever they want they can target kill, I hope the number of civilian deaths is reduced to 0