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Aid workers accused of taking part on 7/10 attack on Israel - appalling !

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Lanabigbanana · 27/01/2024 18:02

https://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/official-statements/serious-allegations-against-unrwa-staff-gaza-strip

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/un-palestinian-refugee-agency-investigates-staff-suspected-role-israel-attacks-2024-01-26/

From the Guardian 5 hours ago;

"UK suspends UNRWA support after Israeli allegations The UK has temporarily paused future funding of UNRWA, saying it is “appalled by allegations that UNRWA staff were involved in the 7 October attack against Israel”.
A statement sent to the Guardian by the UK’s foreign, commonwealth and development office said:
'The UK is appalled by allegations that UNRWA staff were involved in the 7 October attack against Israel, a heinous act of terrorism that the UK government has repeatedly condemned.

The UK is temporarily pausing any future funding of UNRWA whilst we review these concerning allegations.'

We remain committed to getting humanitarian aid to the people in Gaza who desperately need it."

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AliceA2021 · 29/01/2024 12:39

SomeCatFromJapan · 29/01/2024 12:04

So maybe not add to it - that's all

Thread after thread in this section is full of random tiktok and instagram links taken as unquestionable truth - did you pull them up similarly?

The Wall Street Journal is now reporting that around 10% of UNRWA staff have links to militant groups:

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1751928193609609617

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I saw the 10% links to militant organisations for UNWRA workers. I imagine its not surprising, working in Gaza and seeing the conditions. I don't condone supporting terrorists at all but easy to see why they might feel sympathy seeing the images of children on tic toc and X and in real life. We see that in the UK people quickly join in with supportive chanting, support for the Houthis. So much hatred and anti semitism against people who have nothing to do with Israel, live here in the UK and are Jewish.

Mediation and a neutral government for gaza seem unlikely at present with the Hamas stranglehold on everything

Dulra · 29/01/2024 12:27

Efacsen · 29/01/2024 11:59

So where are these people now? Are they imprisoned in Israel?

According to UNWRA statement yesterday:
In a statement on Sunday, he said: "Of the 12 people implicated, nine were immediately identified and terminated by the Commissioner-General of UNRWA, Philippe Lazzarini; one is confirmed dead and the identity of the two others is being clarified."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68127544

Palestinians receive flour bags distributed by UNRWA in Rafah, southern Gaza Strip, 28 January 2024

UNRWA: Gaza aid agency says it is 'extremely desperate' after funding halted

More countries halt aid to UNRWA over the alleged role of some staff in the 7 October Hamas attacks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68127544

NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 29/01/2024 12:25

I'm assuming it contains the 3,000 teachers in a Telegram group. UNwatch has combed through the group posts and found about a dozen posts. I linked to the author of the report and his evidence on the 27th, in this thread.

Efacsen · 29/01/2024 12:21

SomeCatFromJapan · 29/01/2024 12:16

In case this got last in my last post, the Wall Street Journal, which is presumably considered a reliable source, is reporting that intelligence states around 10% of UNRWA workers are linked to militant groups:

The actual article is subscription only so couldn't read it

SomeCatFromJapan · 29/01/2024 12:16

In case this got last in my last post, the Wall Street Journal, which is presumably considered a reliable source, is reporting that intelligence states around 10% of UNRWA workers are linked to militant groups:

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1751928193609609617

Polka83 · 29/01/2024 12:15

Efacsen · 29/01/2024 12:10

Yes I do question random info - obviously not every single one as I'd have to spend my whole life here to do that!

It is important to investigate concerns further, in an open and transparent way. If Hamas does run some of the necessary services -eg references to Hamas health run services, it would make sense for some interaction with UNRWA?

Efacsen · 29/01/2024 12:10

SomeCatFromJapan · 29/01/2024 12:04

So maybe not add to it - that's all

Thread after thread in this section is full of random tiktok and instagram links taken as unquestionable truth - did you pull them up similarly?

The Wall Street Journal is now reporting that around 10% of UNRWA staff have links to militant groups:

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1751928193609609617

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Yes I do question random info - obviously not every single one as I'd have to spend my whole life here to do that!

SomeCatFromJapan · 29/01/2024 12:04

So maybe not add to it - that's all

Thread after thread in this section is full of random tiktok and instagram links taken as unquestionable truth - did you pull them up similarly?

The Wall Street Journal is now reporting that around 10% of UNRWA staff have links to militant groups:

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1751928193609609617

Efacsen · 29/01/2024 11:59

NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 29/01/2024 11:17

The IDF got the confessions.
Torture may or may not have been involved. How the heck could you find out.

So where are these people now? Are they imprisoned in Israel?

NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 29/01/2024 11:17

inkworks273 · 29/01/2024 10:58

Is it true these confessions came from torture?

The IDF got the confessions.
Torture may or may not have been involved. How the heck could you find out.

inkworks273 · 29/01/2024 10:58

Is it true these confessions came from torture?

Efacsen · 29/01/2024 10:58

AliceA2021 · 29/01/2024 10:51

The thing is, things are being investigated. Already staff are being investigated whilst suspended. People on these threads spread all sorts of news and information both against Hamas, the IDF, the US, so why is information sharing on UNWRA any different.

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Indeed. So much dis-information and mis-information.

So maybe not add to it - that's all

AliceA2021 · 29/01/2024 10:51

The thing is, things are being investigated. Already staff are being investigated whilst suspended. People on these threads spread all sorts of news and information both against Hamas, the IDF, the US, so why is information sharing on UNWRA any different.

Efacsen · 29/01/2024 10:46

EllaDisenchanted · 29/01/2024 10:38

Fox News https://www.foxnews.com/world/un-teachers-celebrated-oct-7-attack-praised-hamas-terrorists-heroes-telegram-channel-watchdog, quoting UNwatch, but added:

"The U.K.-based Institute for Monitoring Peace and Cultural Tolerance in School Education (IMPACT-se) issued a 123-page report in November accusing UNRWA teachers of having "publicly celebrated the October 7 massacre and other Hamas attacks on their social media accounts."

Looking up IMPACT-se, this is the first thing that comes up https://www.impact-se.org/unrwa/
"With this damning report, documenting support for the October 7 Massacre among UNRWA teachers and other staff members, IMPACT-se uncovers evidence of the connection between the content of textbooks taught in UNRWA schools and the atrocities committed on October 7, reflecting years of hate-teaching in these schools. The report shows that to date, at least fourteen teachers and staff at UNRWA schools have publicly celebrated the October 7 massacre and other Hamas attacks on their social media accounts. One UNRWA teacher in the school system in Gaza, Sarah Alderawy, posted a video clip on the day of the massacre showing Hamas terrorists roaming the Israeli streets with rifles while shooting at Israeli cars and rocket attacks in Israel. Over half of Gazan school students attend UNRWA schools. The report further reveals that at least 100 Hamas members committing the terror attacks are graduates of UNRWA’s education system, whose textbooks include content that encourages antisemitism, glorifies violence and promotes militant"

IMPACT have published reports prior to Oct-7 highlighting problems within UNRWA teaching materials: Review of UNRWA-Produced Study Materials in the Palestinian Territories
"IMPACT-se’s extensive research of PA school textbooks has consistently shown a systematic insertion of violence, martyrdom and jihad across all grades and subjects, with the proliferation of extreme nationalism and Islamist ideologies throughout the curriculum. Yet, it is this material that is taught in UNRWA-run schools throughout the Palestinian Territories of the Gaza Strip and West Bank as well as Jerusalem. Our research shows that UNRWA, as a UN organization, knowingly produces and teaches material in its Gaza Strip and West Bank schools that are rife with problematic content that contradicts stated UN values. Although UNRWA has claimed in the past that it has devised a methodology to isolate and address problematic content it has not demonstrated how the issue is addressed. UNRWA’s lack of transparency to address such problematic issues make it impossible to evaluate the effectiveness of any efforts it claims to have made. Updated Research of post-November material shows hate remains. " Original report was Jan 21.

Seriously? Fox News and some other online anti-UN organisation?

As I say I'll wait for a reputable fact-checker

EllaDisenchanted · 29/01/2024 10:38

Efacsen · 29/01/2024 10:15

Not tiny but extremely biased source - as was the twitter acc posted yesterday

It may or may not be true - however the 'story' has been around for a few weeks now and hasn't been verified or reported by a reliable source

Fox News https://www.foxnews.com/world/un-teachers-celebrated-oct-7-attack-praised-hamas-terrorists-heroes-telegram-channel-watchdog, quoting UNwatch, but added:

"The U.K.-based Institute for Monitoring Peace and Cultural Tolerance in School Education (IMPACT-se) issued a 123-page report in November accusing UNRWA teachers of having "publicly celebrated the October 7 massacre and other Hamas attacks on their social media accounts."

Looking up IMPACT-se, this is the first thing that comes up https://www.impact-se.org/unrwa/
"With this damning report, documenting support for the October 7 Massacre among UNRWA teachers and other staff members, IMPACT-se uncovers evidence of the connection between the content of textbooks taught in UNRWA schools and the atrocities committed on October 7, reflecting years of hate-teaching in these schools. The report shows that to date, at least fourteen teachers and staff at UNRWA schools have publicly celebrated the October 7 massacre and other Hamas attacks on their social media accounts. One UNRWA teacher in the school system in Gaza, Sarah Alderawy, posted a video clip on the day of the massacre showing Hamas terrorists roaming the Israeli streets with rifles while shooting at Israeli cars and rocket attacks in Israel. Over half of Gazan school students attend UNRWA schools. The report further reveals that at least 100 Hamas members committing the terror attacks are graduates of UNRWA’s education system, whose textbooks include content that encourages antisemitism, glorifies violence and promotes militant"

IMPACT have published reports prior to Oct-7 highlighting problems within UNRWA teaching materials: Review of UNRWA-Produced Study Materials in the Palestinian Territories
"IMPACT-se’s extensive research of PA school textbooks has consistently shown a systematic insertion of violence, martyrdom and jihad across all grades and subjects, with the proliferation of extreme nationalism and Islamist ideologies throughout the curriculum. Yet, it is this material that is taught in UNRWA-run schools throughout the Palestinian Territories of the Gaza Strip and West Bank as well as Jerusalem. Our research shows that UNRWA, as a UN organization, knowingly produces and teaches material in its Gaza Strip and West Bank schools that are rife with problematic content that contradicts stated UN values. Although UNRWA has claimed in the past that it has devised a methodology to isolate and address problematic content it has not demonstrated how the issue is addressed. UNRWA’s lack of transparency to address such problematic issues make it impossible to evaluate the effectiveness of any efforts it claims to have made. Updated Research of post-November material shows hate remains. " Original report was Jan 21.

Employees at US-funded United Nations agency celebrated Hamas terror massacre: report

The Biden administration has given $1 billion to a controversial U.N. agency now accused of glorifying the mass murder of Israelis and other foreign nationals by Hamas terrorists on Oct. 7.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/employees-at-us-funded-united-nations-agency-celebrated-hamas-terror-massacre-report

Efacsen · 29/01/2024 10:36

SomeCatFromJapan · 29/01/2024 10:33

There's a public archive of the Telegram messages:

Why do you think that this 'story' hasn't been picked up [after weeks] by a reliable source like BBC Verify or other reputable fact-checkers?

SomeCatFromJapan · 29/01/2024 10:33

There's a public archive of the Telegram messages:

Page 3 - Jan 2024 @UNRWA_EDU Telegram message archive.

@UNRWA_EDU - Telegram message archive.

https://groupchat.unwatch.org

Efacsen · 29/01/2024 10:33

AliceA2021 · 29/01/2024 10:31

They are investigating. Things will come out in Time. Videos are out there showing what's happening.

IDK but spreading these 'stories' is best done after the investigations and verification?

Oaktree55 · 29/01/2024 10:32

They’re corrupt read up on it. Seems are some naive on here

AliceA2021 · 29/01/2024 10:31

Efacsen · 29/01/2024 10:25

Or perhaps a reliable verified source for this 'story'?

They are investigating. Things will come out in Time. Videos are out there showing what's happening.

Efacsen · 29/01/2024 10:25

AliceA2021 · 29/01/2024 10:19

UNRWA appear to have a large number of staff that have praised 7/10. Videos show staff teaching hatred, shown on other threads, allegedly a small number of staff took part in 7/10. The organisation does need a good look at itself with these separate issues. Who knows what is going on. This could be tge tip of the iceberg.

Perhaps an alternative organisation take over aid distribution at the moment. And needs to get in and distributed fairly

Or perhaps a reliable verified source for this 'story'?

Lanabigbanana · 29/01/2024 10:21

Polka83 · 28/01/2024 20:59

You misunderstood what I wrote. Their own legal obligations mean their own national laws.

OK, so we are looking at a country's national laws. These can be changed.

Italy is doing just that - https://www.euronews.com/2023/10/11/italys-government-is-trying-to-make-exporting-arms-easier-but-activists-say-itd-be-a-disas

Italy’s government is trying to make exporting arms easier, but activists say it’d be a disaster

Italy is trying to make exporting arms to countries at war easier

Under Giorgia Meloni's government's new proposal, Italy would be able to export arms to countries at war as well as to those with a poor track record of human rights violations, evading bans that currently stop it from doing so.

https://www.euronews.com/2023/10/11/italys-government-is-trying-to-make-exporting-arms-easier-but-activists-say-itd-be-a-disas

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AliceA2021 · 29/01/2024 10:19

StarbucksSmarterSister · 27/01/2024 19:03

3,000 UNRWA teachers have also been accused of praising the October 7 massacre on social media. UN Watch published names and numbers of the participants so UN officials then said they would investigate.

That was, I think, a few days before it became apparent that some staff might have actually taken part.

UNRWA appear to have a large number of staff that have praised 7/10. Videos show staff teaching hatred, shown on other threads, allegedly a small number of staff took part in 7/10. The organisation does need a good look at itself with these separate issues. Who knows what is going on. This could be tge tip of the iceberg.

Perhaps an alternative organisation take over aid distribution at the moment. And needs to get in and distributed fairly

Efacsen · 29/01/2024 10:15

EasternStandard · 29/01/2024 10:06

That is not tiny

I agree btw

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Not tiny but extremely biased source - as was the twitter acc posted yesterday

It may or may not be true - however the 'story' has been around for a few weeks now and hasn't been verified or reported by a reliable source

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