Aid workers accused of taking part on 7/10 attack on Israel - appalling !

You donated 5K to UNRWA yesterday?!

Mine went through alright yesterday morning - and it was a rather substantial amount (5k within one transaction).

That said, this was before the reports started flowing in, and I do have anecdotal evidence from "friends of friends" whose did not.

I read some reports on twitter that UK banks are stopping donations people are making to UNRWA. Has anyone who has donated had a problem? Mines seems to have went ok but I'm in Scotland where the government doesn't support genocide so...

Helen Clark, a member of a group of global leaders working for justice and human rights, says she welcomes the decision of several UNRWA donors to maintain funding, so vital humanitarian assistance can still reach the people of Gaza.

“Gazans cannot suffer further collective punishment through suspension of UNRWA funding,” she said in a statement.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez calls on donors to reinstate aid for UNRWA

The member of the US Congress has called cutting off support to the UN agency for Palestinian refugees “unacceptable”.
She called UNRWA “the primary source of humanitarian aid to more than 2 million Gazans.
“Among an organisation of 13,000 UN aid workers, risking the starvation of millions over grave allegations of 12 is indefensible. The US should restore aid immediately.”

Problem is that independent news source look at these facts... like the story of the women and men of Israel being raped... and independently verify these things and yet people still chip, chip, chip away. They deny. They minimise. They sow jumbo seeds of doubt.

I Don't for a minute think it's untrue. The kicker for me is to what extent and how many people knew.

Unwra needs to go.

That's why I said it needs to be looked into independently.

The WSJ has reviewed the intelligence reports. I presume that any independent review will be from the same reports because I'm struggling to think what other sources would exist to review. Maybe UNRWA paperwork?

There were concerns at least 10 years ago I remember but I've also seen something today (and of course now I can't find it) showing that 20 years ago Canada had concerns about Hamas involvement with UNWRA and was told it didn't matter. That was before Hamas was elected.

If I find it again I'll post it.

That's why I said it needs to be looked into independently.

Apparently 2 were killed on 7th October, presumably they had ID on them.

Some received text messages telling them where to report, one was told to take RPGs with him so they must have been captured with their phones.

If Israel can prove those then torture wouldn't be needed in those cases but obviously we don't know. People will believe torture or not.

@ProfessorPipsqueak thing is Israel has been saying this for a while. And it's not the first time unwra has had it's aid blocked. Perhaps there is legitimacy in what is being said? I imagine it's quite provable either way and I don't believe that unwra would have just dispensed with people on Israel's say so. There must be evidence.

OK I looked at mine and a major competitor, they seem relatively accurate overall for averages. Salary for my role roughly correct, my boss's ( yes I knew what he earned) is actually lower than it should be.

I am talking here about an International company where there are salary bands but basically you can negotiate.

Yes they are I believe. I wonder why he didn't use a UN source.

Israeli intelligence? The same intelligence that produced the 'video evidence' that Hamas headquarters were beneath the hospital? The same intelligence that failed to heed warnings about 7/10? This really needs to be independently looked into. Smearing a charity organisation based on 'intelligence' from a country that has recently proven just how inept their intelligence is doesn't seem wise.

Aren't UN salaries openly available?

Do you work for a private organisation? Did you check your specific employer? Maybe you earn less than your peers.

I used his source for the salaries he quotes to look up my own salary and apparently I earn three to four times what I actually earn! So I don't think it's a great source.

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@StarbucksSmarterSister I am absolutely aghast at those salaries. They are so far out of line with local wages it's obscene.

UNWRA in Gaza right now is down to 3,000 pairs of feet on the ground. Most of the foreigners have left. That's not really enough to run health care, shelters and food. Any other agency stepping in is going to have to use the existing infrastructure and probably the same staff.

Agree that Charites etc are very good at having multiple layers of highly paid staff who leisurely instruct volunteers and minimum wage staff to do the graft, whilst busily striving to make themselves look essential.

The salaries of people at the top of these charities. Previous cover ups and scandals (Haiti for example). Corruption appears rife.

Have you not seen 3 threads of random tic toc, X and Instagram posts of what the idf are supposed to have done, taken as gospel by many. Hundreds of pages of unverified 'they did this, they did that'.

They don't appear to be called out for verification or wait until investigated? Double standards.

I imagine there are many things done supporting hamas in gaza, otherwise they wouldn't be able to continue. There are also idf rogue soldiers no doubt. Many awful things have occurred during this conflict. Its dragging on imo for many reasons not least hamas being supported in many ways. There are no winners

I used to work in the overseas development/aid field (government not NGO) and there was always concern about corruption but I think there's no doubt that it's got worse everywhere. There's the added concern about Hamas of course but just read this comment on Twitter (in response to one about UNWRA salaries) about the UN in Somalia. If even half of this is true it's outrageous and the whole of the UN needs completely rebuilding from bottom-up.

Incidentally the comment about medicines echoes something I read recently about medical aid arriving in Gaza when it had already expired.

https://twitter.com/MightyMightyO1/status/1734195887411225052?t=IF27BMyCn8KPNgJml7BW-w&s=19

It was behind a paywall - whose intelligence was it and what were the concerns? See my post above about legitimate reasons UNRWA might have to liaise with HAMAS if they were running services in Gaza.
These need to be properly understood.

This.

There are thousands of UNWRA staff. Some of the teachings I've seen are very much indoctrination of hatred. Some now have been sacked due to taking part in 7/10. Not surprised.