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Yemen, Yemen make us proud, turn another ship around!

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noblegiraffe · 14/01/2024 21:40

"Yemen, Yemen make us proud, turn another ship around!" was being chanted on the streets of London yesterday and last week.

I'm just interested in whether people think this is a reasonable thing to be chanting or not, because there were quite a few people chanting it. So a quick poll:

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XRAYTHIS · 24/01/2024 10:39

I don't think the Houthis are a terrorist organisation in the UK yet

inkworks273 · 24/01/2024 10:36

@XRAYTHIS I do not support the Houthis. I find it a sad day when Yemen is one of very few countries doing anything at all to stop Israel's genocide against the Palestinians.

I can agree that the Houthis have done terrible things while also agreeing that the Israeli government and the IDF are no better than them.

noblegiraffe · 24/01/2024 10:32

inkworks273 · 24/01/2024 10:22

Are the Houthis a prescribed terrorist organisation in the UK? If Indonesia was committing a genocide against New Zealand and Australia put up a shipping blockade to try to prevent it would they be considered terrorists? Don’t countries have a responsibility under international law to prevent an ongoing genocide?

No, it was discussed but decided against as it would restrict severely needed aid to Yemen (guess why Yemen needs aid?).

However the government have now said that support for the Houthi attacks is glorifying terrorism and there will be zero tolerance of this, so you really ought to start rethinking your approach.

Have you looked up the Houthi slogan and seen what they think of the Jews yet?

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XRAYTHIS · 24/01/2024 10:29

evangelion0 · 24/01/2024 09:51

So instead you support terrorism by a group responsible for massive death, displacement and sexual violence?

This is what I find double standards.

People supporting the Houthis who have slaughtered hundreds of thousands in their own country and caused hundreds of thousands more starvation. Barely a murmur about what they do to their own country.

Suddenly to some they are heroes and also to some of the sane stupid people, actually attractive, because they are against Israel.

inkworks273 · 24/01/2024 10:22

Are the Houthis a prescribed terrorist organisation in the UK? If Indonesia was committing a genocide against New Zealand and Australia put up a shipping blockade to try to prevent it would they be considered terrorists? Don’t countries have a responsibility under international law to prevent an ongoing genocide?

hogmanayhoolie · 24/01/2024 09:57

etmoiandme · 24/01/2024 09:17

It's really fucking concerning that there's visible support for the Houthis on this forum, and not just on this thread it seems. MN needs to get its house in order.

I don't get it, I really don't

Do they have some sort of romantic Pirates of the Caribbean fantasies?

These are murdering scums terrorists that have terrorised their own country and are now targetting the global food chain

But, muuh, Israel

To misquote Ricky Gervais, being stupid is like being dead. You're not aware of it and it's incredibly painful for everyone else

Humdingerydoo · 24/01/2024 09:56

evangelion0 · 24/01/2024 09:51

So instead you support terrorism by a group responsible for massive death, displacement and sexual violence?

Don't forget slavery.

People often forget about slavery.

noblegiraffe · 24/01/2024 09:54

Blocking ships with the aim of stopping the Israeli government committing a genocide against the Palestinian people is quite low on the list of things I feel outraged about

So you are now aware that they are not targeting ships headed for Israel even though they said that they were, but you still believe everything else that they say?

Someone asked you upthread what the Houthi slogan is.

Once you have googled it, can you then explain what the Houthi position on a genocide of Jews is likely to be?

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evangelion0 · 24/01/2024 09:51

inkworks273 · 24/01/2024 09:29

I would support sanctions on Israel by western governments until it stops the genocide but they're too busy enabling it.

@Humdingerydoo I really do think they're that depraved, yes.

So instead you support terrorism by a group responsible for massive death, displacement and sexual violence?

Humdingerydoo · 24/01/2024 09:47

inkworks273 · 24/01/2024 09:29

I would support sanctions on Israel by western governments until it stops the genocide but they're too busy enabling it.

@Humdingerydoo I really do think they're that depraved, yes.

Ok, but they're not. Hostages, about 30 of them, were held in the hospital (yes, medical professionals working there were aware) just next door. So they're looking for their bodies so terrorists can't use them as pawns in their sick games anymore. Now that you've been informed of this, I really look forward to you not spreading misinformation anymore. If you do, you'll be wilfully spreading terrorist propaganda and while I can see on here that you have an awful lot of sympathy and empathy for terrorists, I'd hope you'd consider that being some kind of volunteer spokesperson for them l a step (or 20!) too far?

inkworks273 · 24/01/2024 09:29

I would support sanctions on Israel by western governments until it stops the genocide but they're too busy enabling it.

@Humdingerydoo I really do think they're that depraved, yes.

evangelion0 · 24/01/2024 09:18

inkworks273 · 24/01/2024 09:15

@evangelion0 If you think trying to prevent a genocide is terrorism then I don't know what to tell you.

I think a terrorist group attacking ships is terrorism yes.

Do you actually believe the Houthi terrorist give a shiny shit about people in gaza?

So you support terrorism against Israelis? By and antisemitic terrorist group?

Humdingerydoo · 24/01/2024 09:18

Do the Houthis still have (non-Israeli so therefore innocent because obviously every Israeli is a criminal) hostages? Or have they finally been released?

Oh @inkworks273 . Really? You think the IDF have been digging up graves for shits and giggles? You don't think it might have something to do with looking for buried hostages who were held by terrorists in the nearby hospital?

etmoiandme · 24/01/2024 09:17

It's really fucking concerning that there's visible support for the Houthis on this forum, and not just on this thread it seems. MN needs to get its house in order.

quantumbutterfly · 24/01/2024 09:16

It appears you don't know much at all.

inkworks273 · 24/01/2024 09:15

@evangelion0 If you think trying to prevent a genocide is terrorism then I don't know what to tell you.

evangelion0 · 24/01/2024 09:07

inkworks273 · 24/01/2024 08:48

@evangelion0 Blocking ships with the aim of stopping the Israeli government committing a genocide against the Palestinian people is quite low on the list of things I feel outraged about.

Now if you want to talk terrorism let’s talk about a man made famine against 2.1 million people, bombing hospitals & refugee camps, killing journalists & their families, bombing ambulances, using white phosphorus on civilians, digging up graveyards, deliberately withholding aid including anaesthetic for children having limb amputations, blowing up universities… I could go on and on. Now that I’m pretty outraged about.

So that's a yes? You support terrorism as long as its against Israeli?

Incidentally, do you know what the Houthi slogan is?

XRAYTHIS · 24/01/2024 09:03

quantumbutterfly · 24/01/2024 08:58

Passion without perspective is a dangerous combination.

It's a useful weapon that terrorists can harness.

XRAYTHIS · 24/01/2024 08:58

evangelion0 · 24/01/2024 08:25

So terrorism is fine as long as Israelis are the target?

It appears that terrorists targeting Israelis = good.

Targeting terrorists (The Houthis) who attack ships = bad

Same terrorists (The Houthis) targeting their own people = ignore

Interesting. I wonder why

quantumbutterfly · 24/01/2024 08:58

Passion without perspective is a dangerous combination.

inkworks273 · 24/01/2024 08:48

@evangelion0 Blocking ships with the aim of stopping the Israeli government committing a genocide against the Palestinian people is quite low on the list of things I feel outraged about.

Now if you want to talk terrorism let’s talk about a man made famine against 2.1 million people, bombing hospitals & refugee camps, killing journalists & their families, bombing ambulances, using white phosphorus on civilians, digging up graveyards, deliberately withholding aid including anaesthetic for children having limb amputations, blowing up universities… I could go on and on. Now that I’m pretty outraged about.

evangelion0 · 24/01/2024 08:25

inkworks273 · 23/01/2024 15:09

Yes, I agree that they should only be targeting Israeli ships.

So terrorism is fine as long as Israelis are the target?

quantumbutterfly · 24/01/2024 07:49

How obscene that people find terrorists attractive, does highlight the shallow nature of their understanding though.

XRAYTHIS · 24/01/2024 07:17

Interesting that some people in the west are turning the Houthis, (who have caused massive death and destruction in Yeman) into celebrities 🤔

'As Sky News has shown today, the conflict is making celebrities of the Houthis, like the man they are calling Timhouthi Chalamet, a young photogenic Houthi online influencer.
And the Houthis have successfully drawn Britain and America deeper into the Middle Eastern conflict that's swirling around Gaza'

Houthi social media sensation compared to Hollywood stars calls on UK and US to 'stop this war'

Rashid al Haddad said Yemen stood with Palestine and was "being bombarded for this solidarity" - while British and American forces have taken action following attacks by rebels on ships in the Red Sea.

https://news.sky.com/story/houthi-social-media-sensation-compared-to-hollywood-stars-calls-on-uk-and-us-to-stop-this-war-13053994

theconfidenceofwho · 24/01/2024 00:39

I really hope he means it @noblegiraffe - we need to stop accepting anti-British hatred being chanted or acted upon and absolutely stop the anti semitism in Britain today.