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Yemen, Yemen make us proud, turn another ship around!

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noblegiraffe · 14/01/2024 21:40

"Yemen, Yemen make us proud, turn another ship around!" was being chanted on the streets of London yesterday and last week.

I'm just interested in whether people think this is a reasonable thing to be chanting or not, because there were quite a few people chanting it. So a quick poll:

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XRAYTHIS · 04/03/2024 18:25

"Ahmed Awad bin Mubarak, foreign minister in Yemen’s Aden-based government,which is backed by Saudi Arabia, said in a post on X: “The sinking of the Rubymar is an environmental catastrophe that Yemen and the region have never experienced before.
“It is a new tragedy for our country and our people. Every day we pay the price for the adventures of the Houthi militia …”

From

https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/ship-sunk-by-houthis-threatens-red-sea-environment-yemeni-government-says-2/

The people of Yeman have been slaughtered by the Houthis in huge numbers (over 150,000 with a further 200,000 plus dyied due to famine). They now have oil in their fishing waters. The Houthis really don't care for their people.

Ship sunk by Houthis threatens Red Sea environment, Yemeni government says | Hellenic Shipping News Worldwide

https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/ship-sunk-by-houthis-threatens-red-sea-environment-yemeni-government-says-2

stomachamelon · 04/03/2024 15:53

Where's Greta when you need her! It is an environmental disaster.

XRAYTHIS · 04/03/2024 12:15

noblegiraffe · 04/03/2024 10:54

Funny, it looked like you were just trying to have a dig at the person who brought up the environmental impact, and when that failed, tried to drag the topic onto how bad Israel is. As is usual with these threads.

Thank you.

It's impossible to make any comments on some of these threads without a small number of posters arriving with their whataboutery, digs and you must comment about .....

There are so many threads about different topics and yet constantly any comments that are not about Gaza or condemning Israel or the IDF, get the usual but what about.... it's like we are not allowed to talk about anything else, ever.

1dayatatime · 04/03/2024 10:57

@PeasfullPerson

Sadly the sinking of this ship which was carrying 21,000 metric tons of ammonium phosphate and sulfate fertilizer.

This will have a major impact both on the environment off Yemen and also on the livelihood of thousands of poor Yemeni fishermen.

I genuinely don't think that those people in the UK chanting support for the Houthi terrorists either understand or care about the impact of this on the environment or ordinary Yemenis.

noblegiraffe · 04/03/2024 10:54

Funny, it looked like you were just trying to have a dig at the person who brought up the environmental impact, and when that failed, tried to drag the topic onto how bad Israel is. As is usual with these threads.

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PeasfullPerson · 04/03/2024 10:52

I assuming if people are concerned about the environment that holds true for whoever the perpetrator is, and felt that those posts were relevant.

PeasfullPerson · 04/03/2024 10:51

Thanks for clarifying that @noblegiraffe

I know how terrible the Houthis have been for Yemen and I don’t support their action, would never be out on the streets chanting for them.

This war and its environmental consequences are now literally spilling out across the Middle East.

noblegiraffe · 04/03/2024 10:47

This thread is about people chanting support for Houthi terrorists on the streets of Britain. There are many other threads to document the destruction of Gaza.

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noblegiraffe · 04/03/2024 10:12

This is my thread and I don’t support the destruction of Gaza.

I also don’t support the attacks on international shipping by terrorists.

I think the people who think that if you are against the destruction of Gaza then it is ok to chant support for terrorists are (at best) idiots.

I also think that anyone who assumes that if you are against terrorist attacks on international shipping then you must be pro the destruction of Gaza must be wedded to a particular worldview of goodies and baddies and black and white thinking that is particularly unhelpful in this crisis.

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1dayatatime · 04/03/2024 10:05

Thank you @PeasfullPerson that is much clearer.

The only point I now don't understand is who are the posters that are "supporting mass bombardment and destruction of Gaza".

I certainly haven't seen anyone state that but I am happy to be disproved by any links or direct quotes that you can provide.

Personally I am very much against such bombardment and destruction on all sides and only wish that Hamas had not rejected the Egyptian peace plan of December :

www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-islamic-jihad-reject-giving-up-power-return-permanent-ceasefire-egyptian-2023-12-25/#:~:text=CAIRO%2C%20Dec%2025%20(Reuters),sources%20told%20Reuters%20on%20Monday.

Februaryfeels · 04/03/2024 10:01

PeasfullPerson · 04/03/2024 09:47

Below, I have rewritten my post for those who couldn’t understand what I wrote the first time.

I mean it’s correct that the sinking of this ship is bad for the environment, but it’s quite laughable to have it highlighted by posters who support the mass bombardment and destruction of Gaza, given the level of damage that this offensive is causing to the environment.

What are you trying to say?

An oil slick that size shouldn't be a concern unless we chant with the mob?

Or am I misunderstanding? Your posts aren't clear

XRAYTHIS · 04/03/2024 10:01

PeasfullPerson · 04/03/2024 09:47

Below, I have rewritten my post for those who couldn’t understand what I wrote the first time.

I mean it’s correct that the sinking of this ship is bad for the environment, but it’s quite laughable to have it highlighted by posters who support the mass bombardment and destruction of Gaza, given the level of damage that this offensive is causing to the environment.

You're making assumptions that people who condone the sinking of cargo ships and the resultant environmental damage are unable to be concerned about other things.

I don't comment much on lots of these threads because posters like you make sweeping statements across differeng threads. Each thread then tends to end up the same way, same posters saying the same things. There are hundreds of threads with people appearing to attempt to outdo each other.

I read an article about the damage caused by the ship and you made assumptions by that of other things. It is quite possible to be concerned about a multitude of different things you know.

Do you ever get bored of assuming things?

Februaryfeels · 04/03/2024 10:00

XRAYTHIS · 04/03/2024 08:36

To all those supporting The Houthis. The 30 mile oil slick from a cargo ship they sunk.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13151525/Iran-Houthi-target-British-ships-Red-Sea-UK-Rubymar.html

What idiots would chant support of Houthi terrorists.

But Gaza.

qunari · 04/03/2024 09:59

PeasfullPerson · 04/03/2024 09:47

Below, I have rewritten my post for those who couldn’t understand what I wrote the first time.

I mean it’s correct that the sinking of this ship is bad for the environment, but it’s quite laughable to have it highlighted by posters who support the mass bombardment and destruction of Gaza, given the level of damage that this offensive is causing to the environment.

It's still not clear who you're referring to.

PeasfullPerson · 04/03/2024 09:47

Below, I have rewritten my post for those who couldn’t understand what I wrote the first time.

I mean it’s correct that the sinking of this ship is bad for the environment, but it’s quite laughable to have it highlighted by posters who support the mass bombardment and destruction of Gaza, given the level of damage that this offensive is causing to the environment.

1dayatatime · 04/03/2024 09:27

@PeasfullPerson

"A Yemini government statement said the ship sank in the southern Red Sea on Friday night and warned of an "environmental catastrophe."

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/yemen-says-rubymar-cargo-ship-165212013.html?guccounter=1&gucereferrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS91cmwwcT1odHRwcyUzQSUyRiUyRnVrLm5ld3MueWFob28uY29tJTJGeWVtZW4tc2F5cy1ydWJ5bWFyLWNhcmdvLXNoaXAtMTY1MjEyMDEzLmh0bWwmc2E9VSZ2ZWQ9MmFoVUtFd2lkOVBfMW85cUVBeFdfN2JzSUhVWWxCYmdReGZRQktBQjZCQWdMRUFJJnVzZz1BT3ZWYXcySFE5Wk1taWJzV1pCVFF2WjVJcUFJ&gucereferrerrsig=AQAAAE0wsgBNZlquSEh6kNVxTuME5moMwYP5terJwULcIlJH02pFQIRWVLjfqw23eg1xbSz3kd5k38SrfN1k2nMzoz99U3iRIRfH74z06ltRidHMbJYm3fxMf9y1nST0WBZki8f7TnUMERm055_0DXeOT3mKD-pX4wDwMNLi-K1HMLIC

So by your logic is the Yemini Government "people who support the mass bombardment and destruction of Gaza"?

Sorry but at best your post makes no sense at all and at worst woefully ill informed.

qunari · 04/03/2024 09:17

PeasfullPerson · 04/03/2024 09:11

I mean this is correct, but quite laughable coming from people who support the mass bombardment and destruction of Gaza, and the level of damage that is causing to the environment.

Who are you referring to?

XRAYTHIS · 04/03/2024 09:14

PeasfullPerson · 04/03/2024 09:11

I mean this is correct, but quite laughable coming from people who support the mass bombardment and destruction of Gaza, and the level of damage that is causing to the environment.

What are you on about

PeasfullPerson · 04/03/2024 09:11

I mean this is correct, but quite laughable coming from people who support the mass bombardment and destruction of Gaza, and the level of damage that is causing to the environment.

qunari · 04/03/2024 09:01

I doubt the kind of idiots who support Houthis care.

XRAYTHIS · 04/03/2024 08:37

The oil slick may well end up polluting Yeman's own fishing waters and cause devastating impact on marine life.

MoneyMoneyMoneyy · 27/01/2024 19:15

SamFisherman · 24/01/2024 22:26

Nah. Then I'd be having to deal with more comments like this. I'm good.

Translation: I am unable to provide evidence of my spurious claims