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Yemen, Yemen make us proud, turn another ship around!

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noblegiraffe · 14/01/2024 21:40

"Yemen, Yemen make us proud, turn another ship around!" was being chanted on the streets of London yesterday and last week.

I'm just interested in whether people think this is a reasonable thing to be chanting or not, because there were quite a few people chanting it. So a quick poll:

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Trulywonderful · 19/01/2024 23:23

From 2022:

"The agencies sent the letter because they were told by Whitehall officials that the home secretary, Priti Patel, in particular was pushing the case for the Houthis to be designated as a terrorist organisation under the Terrorism Act, as part of a review of UK policy in Yemen.

The proposal also has the strong support of some Gulf states, especially Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. Saudi oil installations and civilian targets have been hit by Houthi missiles, while the UAE was hit by Houthi-fired missiles in January."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/01/yemen-uk-houthi-rebels-aid-agencies-letter

UK plan to label Houthis as terrorists risks disaster in Yemen, aid bodies warn

Exclusive: agencies write letter to government after learning home secretary is pushing for designation

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/01/yemen-uk-houthi-rebels-aid-agencies-letter

Trulywonderful · 19/01/2024 23:15

*Around one billion pounds in aid since 2015

*About 21 million Yemenis – two-thirds of the population – rely on aid to survive

  • The charity Save the Children have stated that the impact of the security threat in the Red Sea is “already being felt by humanitarian actors as disruption to trade is pushing up prices and causing delays in shipments of lifesaving goods”

*Various charities have called on the Houthis, US and UK to scale back or cease their activities. Basically there will be a very large humanitarian disaster in a few weeks if things continue as they are

noblegiraffe · 19/01/2024 21:42

Have to say I have only seen one 'I fancy a Hamas terrorist' on my twitter. Although that's one too many.

I note that the US have now designated the Houthis a terrorist organisation. Not sure if the UK will follow, it was considered a while back, but designating them terrorists would make it more difficult to get aid into Yemen (the UK sends millions in humanitarian aid to Yemen every year).

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EvaUnit01 · 19/01/2024 20:51

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Ocean108 · 19/01/2024 19:08

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ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 19/01/2024 08:08

Trulywonderful · 18/01/2024 23:14

Well yes

Unless the support is from ladies that like the Houthi bad boy thing according to someone the other day. They don't exactly turn me on because they want to kill me and my family. However will except some people have a shockingly bad taste in men.

I suggested that, and it was before I saw the Tim-Houthi or whatever they call it story.

The fascination with the bad boy with added reliance on TikTok minus any knowledge, or maybe denial, about the essence of these "fighters" has a lot to answer, I think.

MoneyMoneyMoneyy · 19/01/2024 07:08

And while I think of it - thank goodness the Israelis destroyed Iran’s nuclear capability (which is what they are REALLY mad about 🤣). thank you Israel for doing the world a favour. Imagine Iran with nukes!!!!! Such Wankers - firing rockets into 3 countries!! Absolute wankers and out of control. Glad they targeted ISIS though- another load of wankers

MoneyMoneyMoneyy · 19/01/2024 07:01

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 17/01/2024 13:45

I really don’t understand the unconditional support for organisations and movements which are, to put it mildly, not women’s rights friendly and the minimising of sexual violence.

I suspect there is some misdirected romanticism there, but I don’t really want to delve into armchair psychology.

They are thick. Spend too much time on the internet. And are likely to be anti-Semitic / bigoted. Because they are thick and spend too much time on the internet.

Trulywonderful · 18/01/2024 23:58

stomachameleon · 18/01/2024 23:50

@Trulywonderful are you discussing timhouthi chalemet?

I know that's ridiculous.

What the H-A-M-A-S sketch on SNL?

Editing because just remembered the pirate that looks like the actor. Yes that something isn't it

stomachameleon · 18/01/2024 23:50

@Trulywonderful are you discussing timhouthi chalemet?

I know that's ridiculous.

Trulywonderful · 18/01/2024 23:36

noblegiraffe · 18/01/2024 23:22

They haven't explicitly said that they want to kill me and my family but I'm fairly sure that 'Death to America' would include 'client states'.

If not I can write you a death threat chant or motto if you feel left out

Something about massacring Giraffes but I will get in trouble with PETA

noblegiraffe · 18/01/2024 23:22

They haven't explicitly said that they want to kill me and my family but I'm fairly sure that 'Death to America' would include 'client states'.

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Trulywonderful · 18/01/2024 23:14

noblegiraffe · 18/01/2024 22:23

I'm pretty sure that rampant support for the Houthis attacking international shipping is more likely to be found on someone who holds anti-Israel views though.

Well yes

Unless the support is from ladies that like the Houthi bad boy thing according to someone the other day. They don't exactly turn me on because they want to kill me and my family. However will except some people have a shockingly bad taste in men.

Trulywonderful · 18/01/2024 23:09

Actually I would say geopolitics don't really apply to this conflict in quite the same way they would other conflicts or issues.

Also who the majority or minority is doesn't fit the west vs others argument that some try to push. That narrative is easily proven wrong just by looking more closely at who are the majority or minority of supporters in different countries.

Anyway as Giraffe very pointedly pointed out this isn't the subject of the thread. So maybe start another thread on the topic.

noblegiraffe · 18/01/2024 22:23

I'm pretty sure that rampant support for the Houthis attacking international shipping is more likely to be found on someone who holds anti-Israel views though.

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noblegiraffe · 18/01/2024 22:22

Perhaps you could start your own thread?

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PeasfullPerson · 18/01/2024 22:14

noblegiraffe · 18/01/2024 18:31

I feel 🤷‍♀️

I'm also not sure why you're asking me on a thread about people chanting support in London for Houthi attacks on international shipping.

It was a general question for anyone to answer.

I find it interesting how what views are considered to be majority/minority or appropriate/inappropriate are influenced by geopolitics.

noblegiraffe · 18/01/2024 20:27

I'm so sorry, you must be devastated.

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Trulywonderful · 18/01/2024 19:44

noblegiraffe · 18/01/2024 19:20

I'm thinking if I'm being asked about Israel, someone's assuming I'm Jewish....

What you're not Jewish?

😁

noblegiraffe · 18/01/2024 19:20

I'm thinking if I'm being asked about Israel, someone's assuming I'm Jewish....

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Trulywonderful · 18/01/2024 19:06

PeasfullPerson · 18/01/2024 16:20

How do you feel about the Turkish president labelling Israel a ‘terror state’?

Please note l, I don’t think that is an appropriate chant.

As my father had to leave his home in Turkey because of that vile little man and his minions. I don't take anything he says as being more than part of an agenda

Turkey is wonderful and full.of wonderful people that except Jewish people openly. The Turkish authorities and their fans however mean it isn't easy or sometimes safe to be openly Jewish and living there.

noblegiraffe · 18/01/2024 18:31

PeasfullPerson · 18/01/2024 16:20

How do you feel about the Turkish president labelling Israel a ‘terror state’?

Please note l, I don’t think that is an appropriate chant.

I feel 🤷‍♀️

I'm also not sure why you're asking me on a thread about people chanting support in London for Houthi attacks on international shipping.

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stomachameleon · 18/01/2024 16:48

It is no coincidence that there are lots of articles labelled 'turkey's double standard on terrorism'

Turkey strikes Kurdish parts of Syria all the time.

Anyway that's no new thing. Erdogan made that statement a couple of months ago.

stomachameleon · 18/01/2024 16:40

@Teentaxidriver I fear that situation is widespread hence the reluctance to deal with outright antisemitism and terror apologists at the marches.

PeasfullPerson · 18/01/2024 16:20

How do you feel about the Turkish president labelling Israel a ‘terror state’?

Please note l, I don’t think that is an appropriate chant.

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