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Conflict in the Middle East

Anti-Palestinian and anti-Israeli rhetoric

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WibbleWobbleFlop · 01/01/2024 09:47

From what I have seen, both pro-Palestinian and pro-Israeli media have been sharing false rhetoric. Many threads are derailed due to whataboutery and it takes away from the intent of each thread.

There have been posters claiming that people who support Palestine are pro-Hamas. Posters have claimed that all Palestinians not only support Hamas as their leaders, but actively want the events of October 7th to continue. There have been posters who have accused all Israeli of being guilty of the onslaught of Gazan civilians. There have been posters who claim that all Israelis think Palestine should be wiped out. There have been posters who suggest that Jewish people all over the globe are at fault for the current bombings of innocent Palestinians. There have been posters who suggest that Muslim people are radicalized terrorists.

All of these things are simply ridiculous.

I wanted to create a thread where people can see without bias that Palestinian and Israeli citizens (and in extension, Jewish and Muslim people) are victims and deserve peace.

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Scirocco · 01/01/2024 10:17

Thank you, @WibbleWobbleFlop .

My colleagues and friends have died in large numbers, some are missing. A handful of people I know got out eventually.

Their bravery deserves to be remembered. As military forces destroyed the hospitals they worked in and cut supply lines so nothing could reach them, my fellow healthcare professionals stayed with their patients to the end, evacuated who they could, saved who they could, and were then killed.

The first person I called a friend who was killed by Israelis was murdered in 2003. IDF, extremist 'settlers' and ordinary people (trying to be edgy, perhaps?) still celebrate her death today.

WibbleWobbleFlop · 01/01/2024 10:12

@istoodonlegoagain Of course! I haven't heard anyone spewing hate at Christian Palestinians, so I hadn't mentioned them. They absolutely deserve a voice and are also victims in this mess!

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istoodonlegoagain · 01/01/2024 10:10

Thanks for the thread @WibbleWobbleFlop but please can we not forget the Christians of Gaza, they deserve a voice too 💐

WibbleWobbleFlop · 01/01/2024 10:08

My Palestinian friends (who are lucky to currently live in safe countries free from bombing and oppression) were disgusted at the actions of Hamas on October 7th, the breach of ceasefire, and the ongoing rockets being fired into Israel.

My Jewish family (who have chosen not to live in Israel despite the Rule of Return, but many of whom are Zionists) find Netanyahu and the IDF abhorrent. They do not blame Palestinians for the actions of Hamas, not do they blame Israeli citizens who are mandated to serve in the Israeli army for the decisions of Netanyahu's government.

@Scirocco I hope your friends/family in Palestine are safe.

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WibbleWobbleFlop · 01/01/2024 10:02

Ugh. I apologize if I have created yet another cesspit.

Much appreciated, @Scirocco.

@ThinkIAteACementMixerLastNight Some Gazans did celebrate the massacre. The vast majority did not and should not be tarred with the same brush.

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Scirocco · 01/01/2024 10:01

For a bit of balance, the people I know/knew in Gaza tended to have the following reaction to October 7th:

  1. Horror at the events unfolding
  1. Horror at the rapid realisation that they were going to die pretty soon as well

Hardly a celebration.

Thatwasadamngoodlatte · 01/01/2024 09:56

I think it would have helped if Gazans hadn't openly celebrated 7 October

Well that’s a good start 🙄

Scirocco · 01/01/2024 09:55

... And it didn't even last one reply. 🤦🏻‍♀️

I was just typing a response thanking @WibbleWobbleFlop for starting a thread to discuss this so that hopefully we could discuss how the majority of Palestinians, Israelis, Muslims and Jews are not hate-filled and hopefully build some bridges.

ThinkIAteACementMixerLastNight · 01/01/2024 09:52

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