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Catastrophic hunger - 40% of Gaza's population at risk of famine

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Createaplant · 30/12/2023 17:13

Being reported by the Guardian:

40% of Gaza’s population is at risk of famine, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency said on Saturday.

“Every day is a struggle for survival, finding food and water,” the UN agency for Palestinian refugees added.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/dec/30/israel-gaza-war-live-hamas-palestinians-khan-younis-deaths-un-aid-us#:~:text=40%25%20of%20Gaza's%20population%20is,is%20grappling%20with%20catastrophic%20hunger.

Too sad and completely unnecessary. If only adequate aid, food and water was allowed in.

Catastrophic hunger - 40% of Gaza's population at risk of famine
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Efacsen · 28/05/2024 22:29

More on the US floating pier debacle

US aid to Gaza stalls after temporary pier breaks apart in heavy seas

Crucial supply line for aid deliveries to starving Palestinians cut off and will take at least a week to repair, Pentagon says

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/28/gaza-aid-pier-damage

US aid to Gaza stalls after temporary pier breaks apart in heavy seas

Crucial supply line for aid deliveries to starving Palestinians cut off and will take at least a week to repair, Pentagon says

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/28/gaza-aid-pier-damage

youngones1 · 27/05/2024 20:30

Vote for the Lib Dems , the only party opposed to the genocide.

EmberLight · 27/05/2024 20:26

NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 27/05/2024 20:15

The Israel lobby in the US is huge.
If Biden says no, to Israel, too loudly; he will lose the election.

He's probably already lost it to be fair.

I wouldn't be cool with facilitating a genocide but nobody gets to his position by being a nice person I suppose.

NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 27/05/2024 20:15

EmberLight · 26/05/2024 01:03

What a hero Biden is. Sending bombs with one hand and building a shitty pier to deliver a pittance of aid with the other. He is one of the only men in earth who could stop this but he is choosing not to. I'm sure all will be forgiven at election time due to his extraordinary humanitarian effort. Bastard.

The Israel lobby in the US is huge.
If Biden says no, to Israel, too loudly; he will lose the election.

Kindatired · 27/05/2024 20:03

The situation is dire.
From todays New York Times:
Aid trucks entering Gaza fall far short of meeting need
Southern crossings orange
Northern crossings purple
U.S.-built pier pale mauve
southern crisding orange, northern crossing purple.
To prevent starvation 350 per day is minimum needed. You can see that less than 300 made it a across on the best day.
This is collective punishment of innocent people

Catastrophic hunger - 40% of Gaza's population at risk of famine
Efacsen · 27/05/2024 18:28

Whilst all eyes are naturally on Rafah

No humanitarian aid has been delivered today - over a hundred lorries of food and 4 of fuel were admitted thro' Kerem Shalom but are unable to be collected by aid agencies because of fighting in the area

Efacsen · 26/05/2024 08:00

Agree @EasterIssland don't seem to be traditional 'vessels' in any sense more like bits of pier - no-one is reporting this as a freak storm just bad weather

In better news - this was agreed by El-Sisi under direct pressure from Biden as a temporary emergency measure [in the knowledge that there'd be no action on opening Rafah as per ICJ] Also problems moving aid on from Kerem Shalom as it still opens onto a battlefield but hopefully some good will come of this and not be just more window-dressing/PR/letting Israel off the hook

Aid trucks from Egypt enter Gaza through Karem Abu Salem crossing

Four humanitarian aid trucks from Egypt have entered Gaza via Israel through the Karem Abu Salem (Kerem Shalom) crossing, according to the Egyptian broadcaster Al-Qahera.

The trucks were carrying fuel, according to the television network.

EasterIssland · 26/05/2024 01:45

Efacsen · 25/05/2024 19:47

More on the floating pier - part of which came adrift last night in heavy seas and had to be re-attached

US aid ships face trouble in Gaza due to heavy seas

As Joe Biden boasted about US aid efforts in Gaza during his West Point military academy commencement speech, saying that the US army and navy has built a temporary pier in the Mediterranean “in record time” to deliver aid to Palestinians, efforts on the ground tell a different story.

On Saturday, US Centcom announced that four US army vessels were affected by “heavy sea states”:

The vessels broke free from their moorings and two vessels are now anchored on the beach near the pier. The third and fourth vessels are beached on the coast of Israel near Ashkelon. Efforts to recover the vessels are under way with assistance from the Israeli navy.

More about this

https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/-320-million-us-naval-pier-collapses-in-gaza--drifts-to-ashd

Soldiers and sailors assemble the floating pier off the shore of Gaza on April 26, 2024. (US Army/AP)

$320 million US pier collapses in Gaza, drifts to Ashdod (Video)

Strong waves have swept away a section of the American floating pier off the coast of the Gaza Strip, heading towards the shores of Asdod, as per Israeli media.

https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/-320-million-us-naval-pier-collapses-in-gaza--drifts-to-ashd

EmberLight · 26/05/2024 01:03

What a hero Biden is. Sending bombs with one hand and building a shitty pier to deliver a pittance of aid with the other. He is one of the only men in earth who could stop this but he is choosing not to. I'm sure all will be forgiven at election time due to his extraordinary humanitarian effort. Bastard.

Efacsen · 25/05/2024 19:47

More on the floating pier - part of which came adrift last night in heavy seas and had to be re-attached

US aid ships face trouble in Gaza due to heavy seas

As Joe Biden boasted about US aid efforts in Gaza during his West Point military academy commencement speech, saying that the US army and navy has built a temporary pier in the Mediterranean “in record time” to deliver aid to Palestinians, efforts on the ground tell a different story.

On Saturday, US Centcom announced that four US army vessels were affected by “heavy sea states”:

The vessels broke free from their moorings and two vessels are now anchored on the beach near the pier. The third and fourth vessels are beached on the coast of Israel near Ashkelon. Efforts to recover the vessels are under way with assistance from the Israeli navy.

Efacsen · 24/05/2024 08:07

''On Wednesday, 27 of the total 70 trucks that entered Gaza through all land and sea crossings came through the pier, The Associated Press reports, citing US statistics.''

Efacsen · 21/05/2024 20:12

Not good news from WFP

Famine will spread with aid operations ‘near collapse’ in Gaza

Abeer Etefa, a spokesperson for the UN’s World Food Program (WFP), warns “humanitarian operations in Gaza are near collapse”. If food and other supplies don’t resume entering Gaza “in massive quantities, famine-like conditions will spread”, she said.

Etefeh said WFP stopped distribution in Rafah after exhausting its stocks. It continues passing out hot meals in central Gaza and “limited distributions” of food packages there, but “food parcel stocks will run out within days”, she said.

Etefa said 10 trucks entered through the US-made pier on Friday and were taken to its warehouse in central Gaza. But a delivery Saturday of 11 trucks was stopped by crowds of Palestinians who took supplies, and only five trucks made it to the warehouse. No further deliveries came from the pier on Sunday or Monday, she said.

EasterIssland · 20/05/2024 13:31

Just read iccs statement regarding netanyahus arrest warrant. One of them is for “starvation of civilians as a method of warfare as a war crime”

Efacsen · 20/05/2024 07:35

You full well know there was a rocket attack on the IDF when they were monitoring aid through the Rafah pass and this is why it closed and that is a fact

The Hamas rocket attack was on Asilat IDF base close to the Kerem Shalom Crossing where tanks and troops were massing prior to the land invasion of Rafah - the Rafah crossing [not pass] is about 2 miles away from the rocket attack

These are the actual facts

Efacsen · 20/05/2024 07:25

Desperate scenes in Gaza as aid trucks arrive from US floating pier

Many photos online of thousands and thousands of people lining the coast watching the food aid being unloaded and then mobbing the trucks and taking the aid - no details of deaths/injuries from IDF trying to protect the aid or how much aid is getting to the warehouse for orderly distribution

6 police officers were killed in Rafah yesterday in a targeted attack by IDF whilst protecting aid distribution

EasterIssland · 18/05/2024 19:28

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 18/05/2024 18:56

You full well know there was a rocket attack on the IDF when they were monitoring aid through the Rafah pass and this is why it closed and that is a fact

Why did Hamas on Oct 7th set out to kill civilians and in the process kidnapped children and women and some were raped - why??

Bud, I'm no fan of the Israeil leader or the settlers in the West Bank but to blame Isrel for the woes of the ordinary people of Gaza, you need to try harder as no one is a fool and all can see and recall Oct 7th

Importantly, Hamas got voted in by the majority in Gaza when Israel forced out settlers and look what Hamas has done to Gaza

Billions have been given to Gaza by the Arab nations in conjunction with the west for the people of gaza - Yet, Hamas spend it on tunnels and themselves and forgot about the ordinary people of Gaza

Once Hamas is kicked out, hostages released, settlers are kicked out of the West bank,
and along with Isrels leader there will be peace for both the people of Gaza and Israel

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Rubbish. they don’t do anything when settlers are destroying the aid ! They should make sure the aid enters Gaza. That’s what ijc has asked them to do.

ill ignore the rest of your comment as it’s a completely derailment of this thread. Something that it’s against the mn guidelines as we keep telling you time after time.

Kindatired · 18/05/2024 18:58

Yes, it’s very likely that Hamas operatives would cross the border with bona fide refugees and use the Sinai Peninsula as a base putting Egypt in the line of fire from Israel. They probably already sneak in for the purpose of arms smuggling fairly regularly but to consolidate a base on Egyptian territory wouldn’t be good for anyone.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 18/05/2024 18:56

EasterIssland · 18/05/2024 15:37

Why doesn’t Israel allow aid in as instructed by ijc and also doesn’t do anything when settlers destroy aid and even attack the lorry drivers ?

You full well know there was a rocket attack on the IDF when they were monitoring aid through the Rafah pass and this is why it closed and that is a fact

Why did Hamas on Oct 7th set out to kill civilians and in the process kidnapped children and women and some were raped - why??

Bud, I'm no fan of the Israeil leader or the settlers in the West Bank but to blame Isrel for the woes of the ordinary people of Gaza, you need to try harder as no one is a fool and all can see and recall Oct 7th

Importantly, Hamas got voted in by the majority in Gaza when Israel forced out settlers and look what Hamas has done to Gaza

Billions have been given to Gaza by the Arab nations in conjunction with the west for the people of gaza - Yet, Hamas spend it on tunnels and themselves and forgot about the ordinary people of Gaza

Once Hamas is kicked out, hostages released, settlers are kicked out of the West bank,
and along with Isrels leader there will be peace for both the people of Gaza and Israel

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 18/05/2024 18:52

Kindatired · 18/05/2024 18:48

You know the answer but for the benefit of lurkers:
-Because Egypt would then be complicit with forced depopulation which is a war crime.
-Because it would likely destabilise the Sinai peninsula- the terrorist with their new recruits would capitalise on such a forced displacement and on the desire of the Palestinians to go home and would likely use the Sinai peninsula as a launch pad for attacks on the occupying forces which in turn would lead to retaliatory strikes by the superior Israeli forces.
-Because Egypt can barely feed and educate its own population and the move would be unpopular and destabilising. Look at the destabilising effect of half that number on a wealthy country like Britain formerly a moderate democracy. -Because Egypt didn’t cause the problem and Israel did. Israel is currently an occupying power and under international law, the responsibility to ensure humanitarian aid rests with Egypt.

Rubbish

Egypt wont help out on a temp basis as they fear Hamas would sneak in and that is a fact

And FYI - it WAS Hamas that "caused the problem" on Oct 7th 2023, fact

Kindatired · 18/05/2024 18:48

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 18/05/2024 15:02

Why is Egypt still not opening her borders?? They could easily taken the people of Gaza into their massive country but best thing is to give them a temp home on the border and they can go back when Hamas is finished which should not be too long now

You know the answer but for the benefit of lurkers:
-Because Egypt would then be complicit with forced depopulation which is a war crime.
-Because it would likely destabilise the Sinai peninsula- the terrorist with their new recruits would capitalise on such a forced displacement and on the desire of the Palestinians to go home and would likely use the Sinai peninsula as a launch pad for attacks on the occupying forces which in turn would lead to retaliatory strikes by the superior Israeli forces.
-Because Egypt can barely feed and educate its own population and the move would be unpopular and destabilising. Look at the destabilising effect of half that number on a wealthy country like Britain formerly a moderate democracy. -Because Egypt didn’t cause the problem and Israel did. Israel is currently an occupying power and under international law, the responsibility to ensure humanitarian aid rests with Egypt.

EasterIssland · 18/05/2024 15:37

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 18/05/2024 15:02

Why is Egypt still not opening her borders?? They could easily taken the people of Gaza into their massive country but best thing is to give them a temp home on the border and they can go back when Hamas is finished which should not be too long now

Why doesn’t Israel allow aid in as instructed by ijc and also doesn’t do anything when settlers destroy aid and even attack the lorry drivers ?

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